Children of Auron

Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel…

Children of AuronSue: Oh no. Not her again.

This episode is hemorrhaging marks before it’s even begun.

Sue: So what’s her crackpot scheme this week?

There is some good news, though.

Sue: She really suits the colour black. I was tired of seeing her dressed in white all the time. And her sparkly dog collar is very kinky. I bet you fancied Servalan, Neil.

Me: I was only ten at the time. Although I did have a poster of Debbie Harry on my bedroom wall. And Joanna Lumley, too. Maybe Servalan wasn’t my type.

Sue: It still looks like she’s late for a cocktail party, but it’s an improvement on her being late for a wedding.

Servalan has two right-hand men this week. The first is a young stud named Ginka.

Sue: Space Ninjas! Is that her latest plan? I she going to attack the Liberator with Space Ninjas? She’s had crazier ideas.

Her second right-hand man is a middle-aged chap named Deral.

Sue: ****ing hell, Neil! That’s your dad!

Children of AuronOh. My. God. She’s right.

Sue: OK, he isn’t smoking a tab and complaining about his IBS, but it’s definitely your dad. It’s uncanny.

Me: Stop it! Blake’s 7 is weird enough as it is.

Servalan wants to attack an Auron space ship with her – gasp! – ionic beams.

Servalan: I want that pilot alive. Alive and vulnerable.

Sue: And in sparkly handcuffs, if you’ve got them.

Meanwhile, on the Liberator…

Sue: I wish Cally would do something about her shaggy perm. I hate shaggy perms. The number of shaggy perms I had to deal with when I was a hairdresser in the eighties. Unbelievable. Everybody wanted a shaggy perm.

Me: Did you have a shaggy perm?

Sue: Of course I ****ing did.

Sue is so obsessed with Cally’s hair, she misses a vital plot point and I have to rewind the DVD. Yes, the crew are heading back to Earth so Avon can exact revenge on a Federation thug known as Shrinker.

Avon: One of his victims was a young woman called Anna Grant. She was important to me.

Me: Do you remember Anna Grant?

Sue: No.

Children of AuronMe: Yes you do. The one where Avon had to defuse a bomb with Duggan from Doctor Who. Remember?

Sue: Oh yes. He left her to die. He hasn’t mentioned her in ages.

Me: Yes, well now he’s out for revenge.

Sue: Why not. They’ve got sod all else to do.

The Auron space ship is attacked by ionic beams.

Sue: Hey! Flash Gordon wants his space suit back.

Me: Do you recognise the pilot?

Sue: Yes, it’s Flash Gordon.

Me: I’ll ask you again when he takes his helmet off.

Sue: Is it a young Stephen Fry?

Me: (exasperated) He’s the son of a Doctor.

Sue: Is he one of the Troughtons?

Me: Yes, very good! But which one?

Sue: I don’t know. There were loads of them, weren’t there? Christmas must have been a nightmare for Patrick.


Sue: Oh! Yes! It’s.. it’s… Michael Troughton!

Children of AuronTo learn more about Sue’s epic encounter with Michael Troughton, please buy our book Adventures with the Wife in Space: Living with Doctor Who. While stocks last. I mean, come on, it’s less than four quid on the Kindle. You can’t buy a packet of tabs for that, and our book won’t give you cancer.

Sue: He’s such a lovely man. And I love his silver life jacket. I’m not sure how that would work in space, but there you go.

Back on the Liberator, Cally is telling Tarrant about her guerrilla past.

Tarrant: Where you exiled?

Cally: Yes. Why do you imagine I’ve never gone back? Affection for him?

Cut to Avon.

Sue: They’re having a lover’s tiff. Cally is jealous.

Me: (sighing) Of Dayna, I suppose.

Sue: No, stupid. She’s jealous of Anna. Avon is prepared to risk everything to avenge his ex-girlfriend. That won’t turn Cally on. Don’t you know anything about women, Neil?

Me: I’ll bear that in mind the next time I avenge an ex-girlfriend.

Back on the Auron ship, all hell is being reflected back at us with Mirrorlon.

Sue: Did they lace Michael’s drink with LSD? Because this is a bit weird.

Michael Troughton has definitely seen better days.

Children of AuronSue: So Servalan has unleashed the bubonic plague. What a bitch. That’s low, even for her.

Me and Sue: URGH!

Sue: Oh my God, Michael Troughton is leaking custard. Thanks for that image. CUT!

Cally is freaking out on the Liberator‘s flight deck.

Cally: They’re all dying. Dayna, they’re all dying!

Sue: There’s custard everywhere!

The planet Auron is in the grip of a deadly epidemic.

Module Six: First case was an hour ago. It started with the children.

Sue: And I thought Happy Valley was bleak. Jesus…

A woman named Zelda is instructed to prepare Auron’s genetic stock for evacuation.

Sue: That woman looks like Cally.

Me: It’s her twin sister, silly.

Children of AuronSue: Of course it is. I should have known that because Cally never stops talking about her. It’s Zelda this, Zelda that, all the time. She never shuts up about her.

Cally convinces the crew to divert to Auron.

Zen: Confirm course change to zero three one zero. Destination: the planet Auron. State speed.

Tarrant: Standard by Six.

Sue: No rush. Take your time.

Servalan is interested in Auron’s ability to clone DNA.

Deral: It does seem a little… excessive. To afflict the whole planet merely to indulge –

Servalan: Indulge nothing! This, Deral, this is merely a bonus. My primary objective for Auron’s affliction, as you call it, is to seize the Liberator.

Sue: OK, let me get this straight: Servalan is going to wipe out an entire planet just so she can get her hands on a space ship that isn’t that good in the first place? It keeps getting damaged and it’s taken over every five minutes. And she’s going to clone herself while she’s doing it? Did she come up with this idea in the shower?

Meanwhile, Tarrant is giving Avon a lesson in compassion.

Children of AuronTarrant: As long as Cally is part of this crew, she has full call on your loyalty and support, no matter what the risks.

Sue: Is he having a laugh? What about Vila? You hypocritical knob! Unbelievable.

Orac explains how Auron could have succumbed to an epidemic.

Orac: Auron has had a policy of neutrality and isolation, the planet has now been kept completely free of all disease for more than three decades.

Avon: Without disease there would be no natural resistance to infection.

Sue: After thirty years? That seems a bit quick, but I can’t be arsed to go to Wikipedia and check.

Ginka cures Auron’s replication expert, Franton.

Ginka: There’s a mirror to your left.

Sue: It’s just like 10 Years Younger. Or Not What to Wear. Or that Gok Wan one where everyone was naked. And why does Servalan have an art gallery on her space ship?

Me: What?

Children of AuronSue: There, on the walls. She’s decorated her space ship with abstract paintings.

Ginka says he can only cure six people at a time.

Sue: That’s all right. There’s probably only six people on that planet anyway. In fact, the Liberator could probably beam them all up.

Me: “Beam them up!” For ****’s sake, Sue!

Deral is fed up with Ginka’s bad attitude.

Deral: I’m tired of your insubordination. I’m tired of your not very subtle attempt to undermine my authority.

Sue: Is this what your dad was like when he was the shop steward in his factory? I bet he was.

Me: Stop it.

Servalan wants to replicate herself.

Sue: Broody and vain. This is a recipe for disaster.

Avon contacts the Liberator to see if Orac has come up with a cure yet, but Vila can’t hear him because he’s got his helmet on. Sue laughed at this, whereas a week ago she would have tutted. So that’s good.

Ginka’s men storm Auron’s control room and Tarrant, Avon and Cally are taken prisoner.

Sue: Space Ninjas! He may be an irritating dick with an attitude problem, but at least he gets the job done.

Servalan’s DNA is injected into a synthesised placenta.

Children of AuronSue: Are you sure they’re not just making Yorkshire puddings in there?

Deral looks at the basting tray and contemplates a future filled with mini-Servalans.

Sue: It is a scary thought. I don’t mean to be funny but Servalan doesn’t really strike me as Mum of the Year material.

Deral teleports to the Liberator to negotiate its surrender, but Dayna ambushes him.

Vila: You tried to trick us, Servalan. Naughty. One hostage to us.

Servalan: And three to me.

Sue: It’s pretty good, this. Just as long as they shoot Tarrant first.

Avon and Cally manage to escape after a skirmish with some Federation guards.

Sue: Here we go. Here’s this episode’s rubbish fight scene, right on cue.

Servalan is so distraught by this unexpected turn of events, she flings an empty cup at an impotent guard.

Sue: He should have stood there and taken that cup in the face. He acted like she’d just thrown a hand grenade at him.

Children of AuronOur heroes head for the replication plant – the only place Servalan won’t obliterate from orbit.

Me: I have a very vivid memory of this episode. Especially this scene where they’re running across the dam with all the explosions going off.

Sue: Really? What’s so special about it? Did it make you scared of dams? Did it put you off dams for life?

Me: What’s so special about it is I’m in my late-twenties, I’m living in Christopher Street, and I’m watching this episode on UK Gold, in bed. It’s 1994 or 1995, I think, and it’s a Sunday afternoon; I think Glen Allen did the continuity. Anyway, you walked in on me while I was watching it.

Sue: I knew it. You did fancy Servalan.

Me: My hands were definitely above the covers. And I remember asking you to watch it with me.

Sue: What did I say?

Me: You said I had to hold a ladder steady for you. Just think, we could have got this out of the way twenty years ago if you’d been more open-minded.

Our heroes make it to the replication planet, where they are shown Servalan’s surrogate womb.

Sue: Servalan’s biological clock is ticking. And now that Travis is gone, this is the next best thing, I suppose. And she’s never going to shag your dad. No offence.

Cally and Zela are finally reunited.

Sue: I hope Zelda doesn’t have a curly perm.

Dayna teleports to Auron so she can save the day.

Sue: I love Dayna. She’s my second-favourite character in Blake’s 7. She’s game for anything. They could use her a lot more.

Children of AuronGinka tells Servalan that Deral swapped her placentas with his. Yes, really. Servalan orders her giant crocodile to fire on the replication plant.

Sue: Hang on a minute. When did he find out about that? Who told him that? That doesn’t make any… Wait a minute… I think he’s making it up!

Thanks to Dayna’s initiative, Franton, Tarrant, Cally and Avon are teleported to safety. However, Zelda stays behind to save Servalan’s babies. Sue bites her nails.


Sue: Bloody hell.

Cally feels her sister die.

Sue: How bleak is this?

And then Servalan feels her children die.

Sue: ****ing hell.

Children of AuronServalan is fighting back the tears.

Sue: Is this really happening, Neil?

Servalan kills Ginka with the flick of a switch.

Sue: She’s a Bond villain. But instead of feeding her henchmen to the crocodiles, she flies around in one.

Deral is teleported into Servalan’s extremely disappointed clutches.

Sue: Servalan just killed your dad, Neil. How do you feel about that?

Me: I think I might put a poster of her on our bedroom wall.

Sue: You’ll have to take Debbie Harry down first, love.

The Liberator heads for pastures new.

Zen: Course zero three two zero for the planet Kaarn.

Avon: Kaarn?



Dayna wants to know if Cally will leave the series or not. No one would blame her if she did.

Children of AuronAvon: Cally will stay with us. We are closer to her than they are. Besides, a nursery of five thousand, would you want to go with them?

Dayna, Tarrant and Vila: HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA HA! HA!

Sue: Is that really appropriate after what’s just happened? If Cally was a real telepath, she’d have heard that.

Cue credits.

The Score:

Sue: That wasn’t bad at all. I’m sorry if I didn’t say very much in the middle, I was enjoying it too much.


Sue: That was Servalan’s best story so far. We saw a different side to her.

Me: Yeah, we saw the hitherto hidden baby-murdering side to her. Lovely.

Sue: I still felt sorry for her. I know, I know! It’s mad, isn’t it. I can’t explain it.

Me: Still no 10 out of 10, then?

Sue: No. It was a bit too bleak for me. And Michael Troughton wasn’t in it enough.

Next Time:




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    May 30, 2014 3:50 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Duncan S

    The final scene is surely the most inappropriate scene of anything ever – “Ha ha ha ha ha, your sister was killed and most of the population of your planet were killed by our arch enemy who we failed to kill. Ha ha ha ha ha ha”

    There are things in Blakes 7 which make you question what you are watching (the dubious nature of the past romance in Animals for one and Blake and his “family” in Hostage) but surely someone should have looked at this and went “You know what, it’ll probably be better to end on something more sombre”

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      May 30, 2014 5:59 pmPosted 4 years ago
      John Miller

      After the first two years, Blake’s 7 seemed to move closer and closer to becoming Star Trek. As an obvious example (spoiler) in Season D. Anyway, Trek always ended with Kirk, Spock and co. having a laugh after various redshirts had been mauled to death, so Blake had to follow suit.

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      May 30, 2014 10:46 pmPosted 4 years ago

      To me it does feel as if someone went “hang on this is really grim we’d better end with a joke” rather leave on a sombre tone or a lead into the next episode.

      This is rather bleak but good. I don’t like this siblings are played by the same person principle…

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    May 30, 2014 4:07 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    There is one very specific thing that Servalan does from now on, following this story’s events. I wonder how long it takes Sue to notice what it is?

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      May 30, 2014 6:27 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Blimey now I’m on tender hooks cos I have no idea what the specific thing is. Unless it’s wear a ‘death to space ninjas’ badge.

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        May 31, 2014 9:02 amPosted 4 years ago
        Duncan S

        Its not really a spoiler to say it (hopefully) – but she dresses in black from now on.

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          May 31, 2014 1:39 pmPosted 4 years ago

          Umm does she? Not in the next one so doesn’t that invalidate the theory?

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            June 2, 2014 8:05 pmPosted 4 years ago

            They were filmed out of sequence. She’s supposed to be dressed in black from now on. But isn’t.

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            June 2, 2014 8:42 pmPosted 4 years ago
            solar penguin

            She dresses partly in black on the next one.

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    May 30, 2014 4:07 pmPosted 4 years ago

    There is something odd about reading Sue’s comments about an episode where I introduced her to one of the cast.

    He’s coming back this year…

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      May 31, 2014 9:52 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Where? Is this a second coming?

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    May 30, 2014 4:50 pmPosted 4 years ago

    Sue: That woman looks like Cally.

    Me: It’s her twin sister, silly.

    For one glorious second, I thought that “silly” was her sister’s name. Well come on! It’d make sense – idebnticakl twins? Cally and Silly? It would so work! 😉

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      May 30, 2014 6:19 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Cally and Sally would be good too. That’s what I (in my senility) tend to call Jan Chappell and Sally Knyvette!

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      May 31, 2014 11:08 amPosted 4 years ago

      Silly.Dopey. Waffly. Angry ( the beautiful one) Foxy. Calmly and Zelda. Cally and the seven clones of Auron. If only!

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        May 31, 2014 4:15 pmPosted 4 years ago
        Dave Sanders

        We don’t need them, the Liberator already has Snarky, Fraidy, Shooty, Cloney, Droney, Earful and Peacock.

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          May 31, 2014 10:59 pmPosted 4 years ago

          So: Orac, Villa, Dayna, Cally, Tarrant, Zen and Avon. Am I right? Do I win? Do I? Do I?

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            June 1, 2014 1:35 amPosted 4 years ago
            Dave Sanders

            Avon, Vila, Dayna, Cally, Zen, Orac, Tarrant.

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      May 31, 2014 4:41 pmPosted 4 years ago

      I had a similar one on Cygnus Alpha, where the woman said “I am the servant of your God, kneel” and I thought she said “Neil”. I am the servant of your god, Neil.

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    May 30, 2014 5:32 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Chris Allen

    Another good episode although that “everybody laughs” moment at the end did seem jarringly out of place.

    I thought the bleaker aspects of the story were quite good, bleakness and Blake’s 7 go together like… well, campness and Blake’s 7. Both aspects help to define the series.

    Re-watching this again I was struck by the voice of the actor playing Ginka (Ric Young). It reminded me of another series but I couldn’t think what.

    Finally, before I had to resort to going online, it came to me. He was Lee Wan in the Tomorrow People story “The Doomsday Men” (the one with the clockwork space station).

    Looking on IMDB he’s been in a fair bit, everything from Are You Being Served? to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

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    May 30, 2014 6:47 pmPosted 4 years ago

    Four grandchildren bickering constantly over Minecraft (no I’ve no idea what it is either) and in my care for another 2 days. Thank God for the blog and the ray of sunshine it brings.
    So agree with Sue about the fights although I’ve tried hard over the years of watching to pretend they’re ok. There’s an odd pause before any decisive action. ( Avon shooting the Feds in Volcano for example). Any competent assassin would gun our heroes down in seconds. And the Feds aim is appalling. Servalan would do better if she diverted her couture budget to the training one and more target practise for her men.
    It is seriously weird how we flip from fun nonsense with spiders to attempted genecide in the space of three days!

    • May 30, 2014 8:17 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Minecraft is basically virtual Legos with zombies.

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        May 30, 2014 10:05 pmPosted 4 years ago

        Bloody hell! Should I be exercising parental control? I’m getting as bad as Wyngate who encourages his two year old to watch the bleak camp mayhem that is Blakes7 and whose first words may well be ‘ crimoes’

        • May 30, 2014 10:40 pmPosted 4 years ago

          The “zombies” are pretty tame as zombies go. They’re called “creepers” and basically they just harass you and give you incentive to build more sturdy structures to live in. They’re no more traumatizing than a Pac-Man ghost.

          The Lego part, though — that’s a dangerous addiction that should be nipped in the bud.

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            May 31, 2014 11:13 amPosted 4 years ago

            Damn that Lego addiction. I knew those beginner bricks would lead to the hard stuff. Why didn’t I ban it sooner?

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          May 31, 2014 11:15 pmPosted 4 years ago

          Don’t worry, he’s back on Thomas the Tank Engine, although I worry about what lessons about industrial relations he’s picking up. He can name almost every train that’s ever appeared in Thomas, but he has yet to shout “crimmos”.

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            June 1, 2014 12:35 pmPosted 4 years ago

            Imagine his snarks about the Fat Controller when he can articulate properly.

            ‘Our fearless leader will have no compunction about risking our lives in dark tunnels for the sake of his insane ambitions to keep the trains running to schedule.’

            ‘ I want it over. I want to be free.

            But you are free Thomas!

            I want to be free of….HIS timetables’

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            June 1, 2014 2:22 pmPosted 4 years ago

            Oh Annie – that’s class! First class, of course… 😀

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            June 2, 2014 2:54 amPosted 4 years ago

            That’s so brilliant Annie.

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      May 31, 2014 4:45 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Minecraft my students love it. But cannot explain it. You mine and then you craft, they say. I get them to play Plague instead. You can put it on your phone, keep them happy for hours. All the kids love it. You invent a disease and kill the whole world. Its brilliant. You evolve the disease and fight the cure and make it more infectious and lethal.

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        May 31, 2014 8:26 pmPosted 4 years ago

        Wow thanks! My antisocial 8 year old grandson will LOVE infecting the whole world. He may have a future as a Big Finish script writer as he does camp cynicism rather well.

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          June 1, 2014 8:14 amPosted 4 years ago
          Katie C

          I share your minecraft pain Anniew. But hang on.. today I discovered minecraft has teleport! Could be our kind of game after all!

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    May 30, 2014 6:57 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Richard Lyth

    Sue seemed to like this one a lot more than I did. It’s decent enough, but I was hoping it would do for Cally what the last episode did for Vila, and she doesn’t really have that much to do in it. Instead Servalan gets the big emotional storyline, which is decent enough but it would have been better if she’d shown any hint of wanting kids in any previous episode. She’s already neglecting her duties as President to spend all her time chasing after the Liberator, so when would she have time to raise a family anyway? Maybe the Mutoids could double up as nannies…

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    May 30, 2014 7:20 pmPosted 4 years ago

    Adore this episode though like others – the ‘ha ha ha ha ha ha ha’ Star Trek ending following the extermination of an entire planet is very jarring and really quite bizarre.
    Jaqueline’s acting in this eppy is sublime whilst Ric Young’s performance as Ginka serves as another one of those ‘secondary’ characters that the producers should have kept alive for future episodes. great actor.

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      June 1, 2014 3:11 pmPosted 4 years ago

      He was never the same after Indiana Jones took his finger. But he spared his life.

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      June 1, 2014 10:16 pmPosted 4 years ago
      Tim Pieraccini

      Yes, Ginka is fabulous. To this day, when I say ‘clearly’, I hear the echo of ‘since you were made Captain, and I was not.’ And, just as good – ‘I do think about it, sir. I think about it all the time.’

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        June 3, 2014 2:21 pmPosted 4 years ago

        I absolutely loved that. It was a brilliant and deadly line. What delivery. What menace. And what a waste..he’d have been such a good foil for Avon. Travis was a great anti-Blake, both kind of over the top, but Ginka would have been just right opposite Avon, smart and patient and viciously cunning.

  • May 30, 2014 8:25 pmPosted 4 years ago

    I’m glad this one sat so well with Sue. Is this the best three-episode stretch in the whole show? I mean “City”, this one, and the next, of course. Seems like many of the other possible trios have something mediocre in the middle. I’m hoping the next episode is our first 10 — we’re running out of candidates.

    I don’t think I fancied Servalan when I was a kid either, though I definitely liked Dayna and that other deadly woman whose name could be censored S_____n. On my recent rewatch I was closer to Pearce’s age when she made the show, though, so her appeal made a lot more sense to me. So did Ginka’s, but that’s another story.

    Dayna’s my second favorite character, too!

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      May 31, 2014 11:06 pmPosted 4 years ago

      “Is this the best three-episode stretch in the whole show?”

      No, that would be Gambit/The Keeper/Star One. Deep down you all know I’m right about The Keeper.

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        June 1, 2014 8:47 pmPosted 4 years ago

        Oh Wyngate. I enjoy your comments so much but this is just wrong on every level!
        You have to keeper this madness to yourself.

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    May 30, 2014 8:48 pmPosted 4 years ago

    One of the best Season 3. It feels a lot like a Season 1 or 2 episode, but with added bleakness. I get as bored with Servalan popping up as Sue does, but this is one of the best Servalan episodes, she’s quite scary when she’s pretending to help Michael Troughton. I’m not convinced by the telepathic “miscarriage” scene but how do you convincingly act that?
    Big flaw of the episode for me is how easily convinced Servalan is that a middle aged bloke has swapped his eggs for hers at the last minute. That and the comedy ending, not much to add on that. It might have been slightly more tolerable if Avon’s joke was actually funny.

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      May 31, 2014 5:05 pmPosted 4 years ago

      yeah, since when does Avon joke? Make others laugh? What has happened to Avon who hates everyone? Avon who was mean enough to say to Gan: “It’s slow. You should understand that problem”. Mean, Avon, very very mean.

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    May 30, 2014 8:57 pmPosted 4 years ago

    Auron–the planet where everyone is just… “Madonna”! I have the sort of inquiring mind that gets stuck on questions such as “so did they have to invent unique first names for millions and millions or what?”

    Pilot’s death was worthy of a horror film. The fetuses creeped me out too. This script really put the “eval”, er, evil, in Servalan. Visiting plague on whole planets, and that as a subplot to your main goal, is some deity-class malice.

    Also, her “my babies! my babies!” acting at the end finally made me understand why these are called space “operas”.

    Ginka was interesting. See, it works when you give the dispensable henchmen a little something, like rank envy. Combined with that voice and snark, to me he’s more memorable, a fuller character than, say, Jenna.

    Props for the Anna Grant continuity…

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    May 30, 2014 10:56 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Katie C

    Ok so the young Auronar have lived a sheltered life and have no resistance to infection, but Avon and Tarrant are not Auronar and are from earth so should surely be immune as are Servalan and her crew. But that’s ok, they do suffer beautifully…

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      May 31, 2014 1:01 pmPosted 4 years ago

      I guess it just means the Auronar die much more quickly (Michael Troughton does) whereas Avon and Tarrant get to sweat it out for much longer – giving them time to work out a solution.

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    May 30, 2014 11:39 pmPosted 4 years ago

    So Neil didn’t recognise his dad when he was in Horror of Fang Rock? For shame..

    I remember almost bursting into tears when Servalan was tricked into murdering her own children, when this was first shown. I was a soft sod back then.

    • May 31, 2014 12:26 amPosted 4 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      I blame the moustache.

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        May 31, 2014 1:00 pmPosted 4 years ago

        Your dad must’ve been a favourite of Verity Lambert, she brought him back in “Budgie” for several episodes and Rio Fanning’s brilliant in it every time. There are a few B7 actors in that too. Betty Marsden and John Savident are especially great.

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    May 31, 2014 4:37 pmPosted 4 years ago

    Avon is losing his prettiness, boo. People, meaning men, just didnt look after themselves back then.
    And actually its fascinating to see people. meaning all of them, age naturally in the days before Botox. Even a year makes real changes. 60 year olds look like Servalan now.
    And I love all the crooked teeth, so individual.
    That episode was dumb. They seem to have run out of ideas. Embryos you can feel from afar. This watering down of Servalan is really clumsy. First the man and now the babies, but it doesnt work out because she’s a career woman, you see. Let that be a lesson to you. Woman.
    And as Sue said, she goes through henchmen like other women go through shoes. I liked Ginka! The crafty inscrutable Chinese. He could have been the new Travis. She needs a new Travis.
    And why has Avon become so useless? He is still ahead of everyone else on being suspicious and figuring stuff out but is no longer acting on conclusions. Just stands and waits to be captured and lets the guard get away. He looks curiously dull and inactive. He hasn’t even got round to getting a haircut.
    I like the way Tarrant admitted at the start they have nothing to do.

    Actually that’s the kind of thing I wonder about on space dramas, things like haircuts. Who does Cally’s perm, or keeps Dayna’s headshave in order? I think they should have a scene where Cally cuts Avon’s hair and he doesnt like it and bursts into tears and chucks the mirror at her.
    Because he is a bit of a stereotypical girl, Avon, isn’t he? Bitchy and sulky and tantrumy and I bet vain too and also bet he can’t park, either…he wouldn’t dock the Liberator, after all. “No, we’ll teleport. Security”.
    See this is just how a love affair goes, doesn’t it? I wouldnt hear a word against Avon at first, I was so smitten with all that beauty, and now I’m starting to find fault, and pick holes…going to be the first fight soon…yes, it’s about a month in..going to chuck him soon and go out with his mate to spite him. Unless he cuts his hair and gets his snark back on!

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      May 31, 2014 9:44 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Avon was pretty snarky about the “Gutless, pacifistic Aurana”. I actually find him hotter the more battered and barmy he becomes. I haven’t had the courage to examine the psychological implications of this confession but I feel better for sharing. And as for hair! Well Sue’s observations on season four mullets should be fun.

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        June 1, 2014 11:55 amPosted 4 years ago

        I didnt find that snarky! It was just bludgeonly insulting. Avon’s insults were gems of disdain and scorn.
        “Oh you are curious are you? Well I’m glad we have a worthwhile reason”.
        Blake: “Does the planet have any intelligent life? Avon: “Does the Liberator?”

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          June 1, 2014 12:42 pmPosted 4 years ago

          Perhaps just the Avon who hates everyone’?

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            June 2, 2014 3:02 amPosted 4 years ago

            Battered and Barmy, lol. That sounds like a 70s sitcom. Possibly about a chip shop in a Northern town.

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            June 3, 2014 3:45 amPosted 4 years ago

            You know it seems you are definitely not alone in finding Avon hotter the more screwed up and dishevelled he is. My internet friend Dora who simply adores Paul finds this so too.
            But me, I liked him icy and remote and completely perfect like a knight on a marble tomb. Never said a word that wasn’t cutting or contemptuous.
            And I don’t want to examine the psychological implications of that…..!

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        June 2, 2014 3:07 amPosted 4 years ago

        Oh dont say there are mullets! Not Avon…
        I’m all worried now…I look for excuses for Avon, like you do with those you love, or at least fancy, but mullets are beyond excuse and I speak as one who had one.
        It finished in the early 80s didnt it so at least there cannot be shoulder pads or those unbelievable jeans with the elastic waists and the folds at the ankle.

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          June 2, 2014 9:01 pmPosted 4 years ago

          I could be misleading you. I’m not exactly sure what a mullet is and I’m using the term to indicate ‘interesting’ hair styles. It’s so difficult to be hip when you’re getting on – hip replacement is about as near as it gets.

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            June 3, 2014 6:44 amPosted 4 years ago

            A mullet also used to be known as a Bowie cut: its the one where its short and sometimes spiky on the top, and also short on the sides, with length only at the back .Big fave of terrible US soft rock bands, specially the curly version.

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      May 31, 2014 11:18 pmPosted 4 years ago

      “Who does Cally’s perm”

      Presumably Orac – she got her hair cut within hours of Orac being taken on board the Liberator.

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        June 1, 2014 11:48 amPosted 4 years ago

        Awesome concept! Perhaps Orac directs you how to do it. I am with Sue on the curly perm: loved Cally’s hair straight. Yes! After Orac did it!

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      June 1, 2014 12:22 pmPosted 4 years ago

      ‘That episode was dumb. They seem to have run out of ideas. Embryos you can feel from afar.’

      They were telepathic embryos and it made for a powerful scene and some great acting from Jackie. I think its interesting (and funny) that Servalan wants to reproduce artificially without the hassle of having a man in her life 🙂
      The really dumb (but fun) eppy is ‘Ultraworld’ but that’s for another week 🙂

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        June 2, 2014 2:52 amPosted 4 years ago

        I just didnt go with it…but I will say, given all the critical carping over B7 special effects that the embryos were really creepy. They really made me say ew. But telepathic….then couldnt Servalan have ‘felt’ them from the start?

        And a shame to waste Ginka! He was creepy too! Couldnt he have been another good nemesis for the crew? Let’s see, he was ruthless, dedicated. ambitious and deceitful.

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          June 3, 2014 12:22 pmPosted 4 years ago

          Agree totally with you on Ginka – brilliantly played and couldn’t believe it when the same actor turned up in the US series ‘Alias’ many years later. My biggest criticism of B7 is that they wasted so many good opportunities by always killing these great characters off. Ginka was a far more interesting character than say Travis. I would say the same about Dr Belfrier and Cornell – those two would have been brilliant regulars.

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            June 3, 2014 2:13 pmPosted 4 years ago

            Yeah I liked Dr Belfrier…who was Cornell again? was he the guy with Just looked him up…the Aryan type on Weapon? Isnt it Carnell?

            When I saw him, I thought he was the guy who played Heydrich in Conspiracy..but that was Kenneth Branagh. Carnell had that same I-laugh-at-genocide SS demeanour and also a very well-fitting black uniform….also I thought Coser, the paranoid inventor of the weapon was good too. And of course Provine from Countdown, that one was a waste for sure.

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            June 3, 2014 4:55 pmPosted 4 years ago
            Mat Dolphin

            Ginka is so cool, you can really feel his enthusiasm for arch villainy!

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        June 2, 2014 10:32 amPosted 4 years ago
        The Grouchybeast

        Oh, my God. Ultraworld. Somehow I genuinely manage to wipe that episode from my brain after I watch it, so it’s always a surprise to go through S3 and find it again. Not a good surprise. A surprise like when you’ve just come back home, and you’re standing in the living room and smell a funny smell, and you look down and realise you stepped in some dog crap in the street without realising, and now you’ve tracked it all over the carpet.

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          June 2, 2014 4:34 pmPosted 4 years ago

          More like the joy of blue jelly and trifle although like both it does have the tendency to make you feel a little nauseous.

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          June 3, 2014 12:25 pmPosted 4 years ago

          As bonkers as this eppy is (it is bog standard Star Trek /Dr Who sci-fi fluff), it is still quite an enjoyable episode. I am biased though as i’m one of those rare people that think B7’s worse is infinitely more desirable than most of Dr Who and other sic-fi offerings 🙂

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          June 14, 2014 4:47 pmPosted 4 years ago

          I like it! What’s wrong with it? it’s sinister and the blue creatures were really chilling.
          I swear I am not just being contrary.

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            June 14, 2014 9:40 pmPosted 4 years ago

            “I like it! What’s wrong with it? it’s sinister and the blue creatures were really chilling.
            I swear I am not just being contrary.”

            I could imagine someone also saying that after watching this…


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            June 15, 2014 6:27 amPosted 4 years ago

            no……!! why did you do that to me! I hate Smurfs. Always find them nightmarish.

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    May 31, 2014 5:02 pmPosted 4 years ago

    And another thing. Why are they so cavalier about disease? Do they think they are immune to everything? You dont just waltz into a plague zone! During the SARS epidemic, everybody here was absolutely cowering at home, bleaching the entire house every 30 minutes! suffocating on N95 masks! And yet…look at “Killer”: deadly disease breaks out, people go down like the Aztecs from smallpox, Avon completely unperturbed. Now’s our chance to get the crystal. We’ll run past the dying coughing deadly microbes and the pathogen will just ignore us.
    And now this. How are you feeling Tarrant. Well Avon I seem to have hideous herpes, but it doesnt alter my expression at all. I notice the more memorable disfigurements are not evident on you. Wonder why that might be. Nobody was even a bit ill!

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    May 31, 2014 6:13 pmPosted 4 years ago

    wait wait wait…didnt Servalan, back in, I dont what episode, mention something about telecasts or worldcasts or something? something about how people wouldnt know what was going on because it wasnt on the broadcast system?
    So how would the Aurons not recognize her? Surely, neutral or not, they would recognize the most famous woman in the galaxy? She must have been on TV loads of times, on communications, on posters, on all kinds of things. She must have. And she isnt exactly forgettable is she? At the least, wouldnt they have heard her voice?

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      June 2, 2014 12:45 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Possibly because for series one and two she was ‘Supreme Commander’ and so simply the most senior of the military. Do we know who the most senior soldier is, or be able to recognise them, at any given time? Even though the ‘military run the Federation’ (according to Bercol, or was it Rontane) they might not do it very publicly.

      Series three is more of a problem – as President you’d expect her face to be on the news – but maybe since the war (and Servalans’s coup) there are major reporting restrictions.

      I won’t mention series four, for spoiler reasons, but there are events that suggest that her face is not that universally known.

      In fact, throughout the whole series there are examples on people knowing the name and reputation of various people without having a clue to what they look like. Maybe the writers didn’t expect such a visual information filled future.

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        June 2, 2014 4:21 pmPosted 4 years ago

        yeah, maybe so..but that seems an odd thing not to anticipate, especially since Servalan did mention something about it. Federation walls are strangely bare-looking, when you think of how nearly all revolutionary regimes clutter the place up with pics of uplifting peasants. Chinese communists specially good at this.
        Yeah…that is odd. Why no pics to inspire and remember who you are serving and remember who is watching you too and all.

        In Horizon, there was the case of those Federation guys recognizing Blake: so his likeness must have circulating somehow. Even though it appears the others weren’t since Klegg didnt recognize Avon, tho Tarrant did. That was odd too: wouldnt the most wanted guys in the galaxy have their mugshots sent to everyone?
        holes to pick and faults to find..its a public holiday today and it is literally too hot to go out, its terrible. Nothing to do but sit in aircon and look for things to criticise.

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          June 2, 2014 5:03 pmPosted 4 years ago

          No need to inspire the people if you are drugging them?

          Mind you different Federation planets seem to have different systems of control. Maybe those in the most drugged up planets have no need of TV news but those more free outer planets still it?

          Then again Earth must have TV to be able to show Blake confessing back in the day. Maybe only alpha grades got TV privileges?

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            June 3, 2014 3:40 amPosted 4 years ago

            Oh yes! Blake’s confession! But no use to just show to alpha grades, surely. A legend like Blake is stirring to the masses: you have to discredit him with them too.
            Maybe they have special broadcasts and everyone is herded to watch…like the Two Minute Hate in 1984.

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        June 2, 2014 4:31 pmPosted 4 years ago

        I mean, totalitarian regimes, not revolutionary ones. Suppose not much different.

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    June 2, 2014 6:23 amPosted 4 years ago

    I have just been watching the next one…and this is not a spoiler…but I have just realized who Servalan reminds me of…its the Martian ‘woman’ in Mars Attacks. The one who seduces the presidential aide. She has the same slow swaying gait like she’s on wheels. Like she’s locomoting on a little trolley and swaying from side-to-side. She’s got the same arm movement.

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    June 2, 2014 8:13 pmPosted 4 years ago

    The strange ending does lead you to wonder what Maloney and Boucher were up to. Both clearly very talented but – with things like the lack of speed heading to Auron and Tarrant’s about turn on how he treats the crew – it’s utterly incoherent. Maybe there wasn’t the time or the same level of attention to detail in a pre-VHS world but it’s bizarre nonetheless.

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      June 3, 2014 10:01 amPosted 4 years ago

      I’m not sure Tarrant is that inconsistent . I work with loads of people whose life principles are it’s ok if I do it but not if you do and don’t do what I do,do as I tell you to. As a parent/grandparent it has sometimes been my life policy too.

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      June 3, 2014 12:33 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Useless Star Trek ending aside, I don’t find Tarrant’s about turn and actions incoherent. We’ve all met characters like him in real life – he loves the sound of his own voice, he’s trying to be the alpha male and is prone to bullying people yet he knows that he still has to rely on the crew members around him.
      If you compare how Dr Who companions were being written at the same time then Tarrant almost has the depth of Shakespear.

  • June 2, 2014 10:58 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Mat Dolphin

    One thing I will say about Sue, she’s not shy about changing her opinion. She despised Terry Nation, Vila, and Servalan but surprisingly she seems to be warming to all three of them! Next I’m predicting that she’ll go off one of the characters.

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      June 3, 2014 12:43 pmPosted 4 years ago

      ‘Next I’m predicting that she’ll go off one of the characters.’

      It will be very interesting to read Sue’s views on Bob Holmes final B7 eppy 🙂

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        June 3, 2014 4:52 pmPosted 4 years ago
        Mat Dolphin

        That might be my favourite episode!

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    June 3, 2014 1:24 pmPosted 4 years ago

    For Fiona. Many thanks for the mullet explanation. Regrettably there are no mullets in Season Four.

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      June 3, 2014 2:24 pmPosted 4 years ago

      Regrettably!! Its not regrettable…its a weight off my mind. A serious mullet can be traumatizing.

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        June 3, 2014 2:42 pmPosted 4 years ago

        Now come on! Tarrant with a mullet would be worth watching. Even the thought fills me with incandescent joy.

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    June 3, 2014 2:49 pmPosted 4 years ago

    Thanks annie. Way to keep me awake all night. I fear the nightmares. Its just to horrible to contemplate.
    Still I wish I was good with computers and could mullet them all for a laugh.

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      June 3, 2014 3:31 pmPosted 4 years ago

      That would be fun! Anybody out there who could do it?

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        June 3, 2014 3:56 pmPosted 4 years ago

        I should try and get zukalis to do it. She makes totally hilarious videos for Blake’s 7…she just a genius at it.

  • June 3, 2014 7:46 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Mat Dolphin

    Glen’s trailers reach new heights of surrealism!

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