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City at the Edge of the World

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City at the Edge of the WorldTarrant is bullying Vila.

Tarrant: I can toss you off this ship.

Vila and Sue: What?

Tarrant: You’re no use to me.

Sue: Why is Michael Ball in charge? Did we miss a meeting or something?

Tarrant puts the fear of God into Vila.

Tarrant: I can dump you any time. The others wouldn’t stop me. And you couldn’t, could you?

Sue: What the hell is going on? Has Tarrant been taken over by aliens?

Vila: All my life, for as long as I can remember, there’s been people like you.

Tarrant: And I thought I was unique.

Vila: You’re not even unusual, Tarrant.

Sue: Poor Vila.

I pause the DVD. Did I just imagine that or did Sue just say, “Poor Vila”?

City at the Edge of the WorldSue: I don’t like the way that Tarrant struts around the ship like he owns the place. He shouldn’t talk to Vila like that. That’s Avon’s job.

Me: So it’s OK if Vila is bullied, just so long as Avon is the one doing the bullying?

Sue: It’s funny when Avon does it; he’s earned it. It’s horrible when Tarrant does it.

Vila has been exchanged for some crystals.

Sue: So the locals want to borrow him?

Me: Yes, Tarrant did a deal with them for Vila’s services.

Sue: So they’re time-sharing Vila.

Sue came up with that joke two hours after she watched the episode, but what the hell.

Tarrant: We’ve no reason to think they’ll harm him.

Avon: And less reason to care.

Sue: See! It’s funny when Avon does it.

Vila is escorted to a city by two men who haven’t paid their Equity dues.

Sue: The Steve Hillage Band will do anything to round up an audience.

When Cally teleports to the planet to pick-up the crystals, she narrowly avoids a booby trap.

Sue: Tarrant has set them up. He wants to take over the ship and he’s trying to be sneaky about it. I’ve gone right off Tarrant.

Tarrant’s put Sue in such a foul mood, even Avon can’t escape her wrath.

City at the Edge of the WorldSue: He desperately needs a haircut. It looks like he’s wearing a wig.

The locals told Tarrant about a place with an unpronounceable name.

Tarrant: Apparently it means The City at the Edge of the World.

Me: Not to be confused with The City at the Edge of Forever.

Sue: Or The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

Me: How do you know about that?

Sue: Are you serious? I’ve lived with you for twenty-one years, Neil.

Vila finds himself in an underground bunker.

Sue: This is a very nice corridor. That effect was done with mirrors, you know.

Me: If they ever re-release these episodes on DVD, you should do the production notes, Sue.

Vila curses Tarrant for getting him into this mess.

Vila: I’ll get you for this, Tarrant. I’ll tear your arm off and beat you to death with the wet end.

Sue: (laughing) Come on, Vila!

Me: Finally! It’s only taken you 31 episodes!

City at the Edge of the WorldVila meets a beautiful mercenary named Kerril.

Kerril: Pick up your box and let’s go, little man.

Vila: You should try taking a bath sometime, you smell terrible.

Sue: Vila has all the best lines this week. It’s pretty good, this.

Good? Good? GOOD!?

Sue: IT’S COLIN!

It bloody is, you know.

Sue: It’s Colin Baker from Doctor Who!

That’s right. Not “Whatshisface from that thing we use to watch”, or “He’s famous”, or “Thingamy from whatyoumacallit”. It’s Colin Baker from Doctor sodding Who!

Bayban: You must be Vila. It’s an honour, sir.

Vila: The honour’s mine.

Bayban: That’s what I meant.

Sue: The script is brilliant this week. Absolutely brilliant.

I didn’t make any notes for the next five minutes. We just laughed and forgot about what we were supposed to be doing. We simply enjoyed the episode. Sorry about that.

City at the Edge of the WorldSue: Colin is so much better as the bad guy. You can’t take your eyes off him. He shouldn’t have been cast Doctor Who; he should have been the Master.

Bayban: I had a mother. Wonderful woman. Truly evil person. She had a saying. “Babe,” she used to say. She called me Babe. “Babe,” she used to say, “treat every hour as though it’s your last.”

Sue: Now shut up and eat your bran flakes.

Back on the Liberator, Avon is mildly annoyed with Tarrant.

Sue: At least I could empathise with Blake. At least Blake had a heart. Tarrant is just a posh twat with a perm.

Cally and Avon teleport to the planet to search for Vila.

Sue: These two are definitely shagging.

Me: I thought you’d stopped shipping. Especially after that talk we had.

Sue: Oh, come on, Neil! It’s right there on the screen. Just look at them. I wonder if Dayna knows…

Vila tells Kerril about how he plans to open the planet’s vault.

City at the Edge of the WorldVila: The energy threshold of this force field is zero-zero-two. Anything more that zero-zero-two gets chucked back at you, right? This will push a probe into the field very slowly. Maximum energy zero-zero-one. When the probe reaches the door, the field will collapse.

Sue: Vila is saying words that aren’t just punchlines this week. I never thought I’d see the day. He is a real person, after all.

Me: Are you having second thoughts about Vila?

Sue: Only because the script writer has.

Kerril may stink to high heaven, but Sue loves her outfit.

Sue: She’s got this Suzi Quatro look going on. I keep expecting her to start singing ‘Devil Gate Drive’.

Cally and Avon investigate the locals.

Sue: You can’t beat a bit of mediaeval sci-fi, can you. For ****’s sake.

And then Stuart Fell falls over and everything’s all right again.

Sue: The bad guys remind me of the Sontarans. They’re just as thick.

The planet’s elder, Norl, watches as Vila breaks into the planet’s vault.

Vila: What were you looking so pleased about? Bayban isn’t going to share whatever’s in there.

City at the Edge of the WorldNorl: That’s true. Bayban will not share it.

Sue: He has a lovely voice.

Me: Don’t you recognise him?

Sue: Not really.

Me: I’ll give you a clue. (in my best Valentine Dyall voice) Turlough!

Sue: He doesn’t look anything like Nyssa.

Me: Turlough, you must kill the Doctor! Or I will peck your eyes out with my hat.

In the end, I have to pause the DVD and show her a picture.

Sue: Oh yeah. Blimey, I never would have guessed. He looks nothing like him. There’s nowt on him!

Me: I can’t believe you’ve lived with me for twenty-one years and you didn’t recognise the voice of Deep Thought. I’m very disappointed.

Sue: And yet I can still remember that time I caught you watching Deep Throat. Funny, that.

Kerril has changed into something a little more comfortable and a little less stinky.

Sue: Ha! The comedy sound effect was hilarious. Either Vila’s probe is on the blink or he’s extremely pleased to see her.

Me: Carol Hawkins was probably used to that. She’d been in a couple of Carry On… films. And Bless This House: The Movie.

Sue: She’s very funny. And you’d have to have a sense of humour to flirt with Vila.

City at the Edge of the WorldVila can’t take his eyes off Kerril. It should be creepy but it isn’t. Actually, maybe it is a bit.

Sue: Vila’s eyes are out on stalks. And I thought she looked sexier in tight leather, but what do I know.

The force field protecting the vault finally collapses.

Kerril: You did it!

Vila: Of course! For a little man I’m a wonderful mover, wouldn’t you say?

Sue: Just like Ernie Wise.

Meanwhile, on the planet’s surface, Avon and Cally have rounded up some of Bayban’s mercenaries.

Avon: We’ve lost a friend of ours. We think you can tell us where to find him.

Cally: That’s what we think.

Avon: WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Sue: Oh, Avon, I ****ing love you.

City at the Edge of the WorldBayban’s right-hand man, Sherm, reminds Sue of someone else.

Sue: It’s Billy Mitchell gone wrong. I wish he had a helmet. The Sontarans were never this ugly.

Vila and Kerril explore the vault. What doesn’t surprise Sue is Vila’s decision to leave Kerril to face whatever traps the designer has in store for them. What does surprise her is that he goes back for her when she screams the place down.

Sue: That is totally out of character for Vila. Thank God.

Kerril and Vila are transported to a room which is equipped with its own exposition machine and two skeletons. Sue listens patiently as Valentine Dyall explains the plot to her.

Exposition Machine: Once in every thirty-five generations, they will gather near the city at the edge of the world, and one will be found who can enter the vault. My people will know peace only if he returns. He will return only if the ship has reached its destination.

Sue: It’s a very convoluted way of going about things. Why have they made it so difficult for themselves? Why doesn’t the ship send a message when the ship arrives? Why do they have to randomly kill people? And if the ship landed the day after somebody died, they would have to wait thousands of years to try again. It’s crazy.

Vila believes that he will suffocate to death because the ship hasn’t reached its destination yet. Kerril decides to go out with a bang.

Sue: Now she’ll know for sure whether Vila is a “little man” or not.

City at the Edge of the WorldMeanwhile, Tarrant and Dayna are busy infiltrating the city.

Sue: Tarrant thinks he’s James Bond. He isn’t. He couldn’t be less like James Bond if he tried. He’s the guy who dies in the pre-titles sequence and doesn’t even have a name. Have I told you that I don’t like Tarrant any more?

Dayna uses a drone to take out Bayban’s men.

Sue: That’s how the Cybermats should have behaved. I like Dayna. She doesn’t piss about.

You can’t say the same for Bayban and his humongous gun.

Sue: Well, you know what they say…

His gun is so massive, Bayban needs help moving it.

Sue: Here’s some advice for you: try pointing it at the door while you’re assembling it next time.

Vila and Kerril are still in the land of the living.

Sue: Did she leave her boots on? Kinky.

Me: I don’t know about you but those skeletons would have put me off my stride.

City at the Edge of the WorldVila and Kerril are actually on an alien planet.

Sue: Oh look, somebody left them with a beach ball to play with.

Sue isn’t very impressed with Vilaworld.

Sue: Just think how brilliant it would have been if that door had opened out onto the South of France. Or a sunny beach. Or a field somewhere. It looks like someone has decided to stage Play School in a garden centre.

Avon and Cally end up fighting Bayban and his men.

Sue: The fight scenes always let Blake’s 7 down. They’re never very realistic. I dread the fight scenes, I really do.

When Bayban is overpowered, Avon threatens to put him out of his misery.

Bayban: Go ahead. You’d be famous. The man who killed Bayban.

Cally: I’d quite like to be famous, too. How about the woman that killed Bayban?

Dayna: Or better still, the girl who killed Bayban.

Sue: Or worst of all, the posh twat who killed Bayban.

When Vila prepares to leave Vilaworld, Kerril doesn’t take the news lying down.

City at the Edge of the WorldSue: Vila, you idiot. You’re supposed to be Adam and Eve, now. You’re practically married to her.

Vila tries to get his end away one last time before they leave.

Sue: I know I should hate this episode, but I can’t.

Vila, reeking of sex, is welcomed back with open arms. Well, sort of.

Avon: Every silver lining has a cloud.

Sue laughed so hard at that, she spilt her tea.

Sue: That’s the funniest line in Blake’s 7 so far. That was brilliant.

Norl is very happy, too.

Norl: My people are coming. They are summoned to enter the city.

Sue: All six of them. This has been a lot of trouble just to open an airport for six people. And surely they are just moving from one shit hole to another. I don’t see what they’re getting out of this. Wait until they see where they’ll be washing their clothes tonight.

Norl: Vila, you’re a clever man, and brave. My people thank you.

Sue: Aww, that was so sweet. Good old Vila.

Me: You’ve changed your tune.

City at the Edge of the WorldSue: He was a real person for a change. I’ve warmed to him. And it makes me hate Tarrant that little bit more. They should take Tarrant’s bracelet off him and leave him here.

Kerril decides to leave with Norl.

Sue: No! You should join the crew. You would be great. You could even call it Vila’s 7, if that’s what turns you on.

Vila has a big decision to make.

Sue: Let’s put it this way: Vila will never get a better offer than this. However, it doesn’t really make any sense for them to leave for that planet. She’s gone from a hardened warrior to a helpless sex-starved princess awfully quickly. It’s a bit dodgy when you stop to think about it, so I won’t.

Vila: I like you, Kerril, more than anyone. Anyone I’ve ever known.

Kerril: The difference is, I love you.

Sue: Vila must be amazing in bed. That’s all I’m saying.

And that’s when Bayban interrupts the party. Kerril makes it inside the vault and Vila teleports back to the Liberator as Bayban turns his massive gun on the force field. A deranged Bayban blows himself and the city to smithereens.

City at the Edge of the WorldSue: Nice impression of an angry turtle at the end there, Colin.

Vila may have lost the girl but at least he got the crystals.

Avon: I’m impressed.

Sue: I can’t believe I’m saying this, but so am I.

Vila is worried that he may have made the biggest mistake of his life.

Orac: I would predict that there are far greater mistakes waiting to be made by someone with your obvious talent for them.

Vila: Shut up, Orac. Still, it’s a comforting thought. Let’s hope they’ve all got good legs.

I had planned to cough over Vila’s final line, but I needn’t have worried. Sue laughed her head off.

Cue credits.

The Score:

Sue: I loved that.

9/10

Sue: The plot was a bit bonkers but I loved the dialogue. And I’ve changed my mind about Vila. He was brilliant in that.

Me: Isn’t it time you gave an episode 10 out of 10?

Did I mention that ‘City at the Edge of the World’ is my favourite episode of Blake’s 7?

Sue: The fight scenes let it down a bit. And Avon was just a supporting character, so it wasn’t perfect. It was pretty close, though. Why? Is that as good as it gets?

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    May 27, 2014 9:27 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Thomas Bush

    SUE YOU ROCK!!!

    One of the jewels in the crown of Season 3. That and a few others, mind!

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    May 27, 2014 9:36 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Dan

    This was the first Blake’s 7 episode I remembered before this rewatch. It made an impression – a utopia beyond a 3000 light years away death-trap beyond a magic teleport device beyond a door impregnable to brute force. It’s a nice metaphor.

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    May 27, 2014 9:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Rad

    I’m with Sue on Tarrant. He was great in his first episode, OK in his second and an abomination ever since. Did they write half the scripts for Blake and then change them at the last minute?

    On the other hand, I love Dayna – I have only seen series 4 before, so she, Avon and Servalan are the characters I remembered and it surprised me she wasn’t in series one. I miss Jenna and Blake a bit though.

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      May 27, 2014 11:28 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      ” He was great in his first episode”

      Do you mean Aftermath?!

  • May 27, 2014 9:58 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Philip Ayres

    Great episode

    The bit that I really love is that Avon finally has enough of the curly haired idiot mucking things up when Vila disapears and steps in to take charge!

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      May 28, 2014 11:52 amPosted 3 years ago
      Philip Ayres

      The crystals….

      Liberator needs the crystals to power it’s weapons which were damaged at Star One.

      Mentioning this in an earlier episode would have been nice and would help explain Avon’s little rock hunting trick in the previous episode!

      But no, Boucher’s not into doing joined up story telling that well this year.

      Just how Avon’s allowing the Curly Haired Idiot to take charge looks so wrong…..

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        May 28, 2014 3:52 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        Yeah, but now he isnt. Those icy low-voiced threats…we can always find a new pilot stuff…remind Tarrant who the real power is. Avon’s been letting Tarrant’s behaviour slide, but Avon will have Avon reasons for that.

        I wonder how he makes his eyes go black and glassy and snake-like, like he does. He did it in Killer when he was threatening to grass Tynus to the Federation. “Aren’t you forgetting something, Tynus? You Owe Me” and his eyes looked to be all pupil. It’s really very weird. I have seen a thing about some guys in Indonesia who can contract their pupils at will so as to walk on the sea bed and spear fish…

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        August 27, 2014 7:33 pmPosted 3 years ago
        David

        So how did they fire the weapons in Volcano and Dawn of the Gods? Hmmm?

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          August 27, 2014 8:42 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Anniew

          Presumably the crystals they had were used up firing in those episodes and now they need to replace them (I always see the crystals like a battery which are gradually drained and need replacing. Now I need a science contributor to explain why this cannot possibly be the case! )

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    May 27, 2014 10:01 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Simon Harries

    What a marvellous score! I love this episode to bits….! Still, can’t wait for Sue’s take on “Rumours of Death.”

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    May 27, 2014 10:22 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Vilahoop

    My first memory of this episode was watching it with the Manchester and Salford Local Group in around 1988. I remember thinking how good it was but I actually wasn’t sure about Bayban and I am still not. It seems to me that there’s a fine line between psychopathic menace and scenery chewing of the highest order. This probably explains Paul Darrow’s performance in Timelash!

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      May 28, 2014 1:13 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      Ahh, Timelash. With Colin Baker and Paul Darrow on the commentary. Colin: “Do you think that kind of acting will ever come back?” Paul: “As far as I’m concerned it never went away.” 😀

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        May 28, 2014 12:47 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Dave Sanders

        According to About Time 6, Eric Saward created Orcini in Revelation Of The Daleks as a means of showing Colin how a character like Bayban could and should be more restrained.

        Pity then that the lesson Eric seemed to take away from CATEOTW was how to distinguish Nord’s cod-Shakespeare declaiming from natural dialogue, since he then inflicted it upon every Doctor Who character he ever wrote.

  • May 27, 2014 10:30 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Krom Prehat

    I saw this both times it was originally shown (or the original showing, and the first repeat), and found it suitably eerie and magical as a 6-year-old. Her transformation into a simpering twit is a bit dodgy, but otherwise one of my absolute favourites too.

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    May 27, 2014 10:51 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Nick

    My fave episode too.I seem to remember that Vila wakes up and realises they’re still alive and says: “We should be dead!” and Kerril replies: “Mmmm… are you boasting?”

    All this and a deranged Colin Baker too… (Even my mum laughed at the bit where he tells Vila his mum used to call him Babe)

    And what’s even better – No ****ing Servalan!

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    May 27, 2014 10:53 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Nick

    And this is the best dialogue in the whole series (so far):

    Bayban: I had a mother. Wonderful woman. Truly evil person. She had a saying. “Babe,” she used to say. She called me Babe. “Babe,” she used to say, “treat every hour as though it’s your last.”

  • May 27, 2014 10:54 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Andy L

    Homeworld? Vilaworld? Homebase?

    All the supporting cast in this were top notch in this too. There should be an episode were Tarrant’s model perm is offered in exchange for more bracelets, but he’s given to a Steps to Work hairstylists who are massive Tank Girl fans.

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      May 28, 2014 3:54 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      I would watch that.

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    May 27, 2014 10:54 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Katie C

    Vila’s shining moment, love it! Sue is saving her 10/10 for the next but one episode, can’t wait!

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      May 28, 2014 9:04 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Tim Pieraccini

      Hmm, I dunno. It does have Servalan in it, and much depends on her response to the Forres/Grenlee scenes…

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    May 27, 2014 11:26 pmPosted 3 years ago
    wyngatecarpenter

    Not quite my sort of episode, but pretty much impossible not to like it. It’s got to be a contender for the most atypical episode, and not just because Vila is the hero. I like the idea that to make Vila credible as the hero you just have to write an episode about opening a locked door.
    It was funny watching Colin Baker in it again though, he’s good as Bayban, but a bit too posh to be convincing.
    Favourite line from Sue: “Or worst of all, the posh twat who killed Bayban.”

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    May 27, 2014 11:42 pmPosted 3 years ago
    NICK GRIFFITHS

    I’m surprised Sue didn’t comment on how Kerril and Vila appear to have had sex with their clothes on.

    Possibly my favourite episode of Blake’s 7, it’ll be interesting to see what Sue makes of Orbit and Warlord

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    May 28, 2014 12:38 amPosted 3 years ago
    DPC

    Best. Review. Of. Any. Show. By. Anyone. EVER!

    There’s so many wonderful quotes, but I’ll stick to just one since it came out of left-field so perfectly:

    “Sue: Now she’ll know for sure whether Vila is a “little man” or not.”

    ROTFLMAO!!

    Tarrant is inconsistently written between episodes, unfortunately. And Sue more than just nails it explaining why Avon gets a pardon – Avon indeed earned it.

    Colin Baker relishes Bayban, and plays off of Paul Darrow nicely. Not that it’s a surprise that I find “Timelash” tolerable, but still… Colin as the Master would be great, and the idea of the Doctor becoming an anti-hero again made sense that he would be cast as the Doctor (though I wish the production team were more unified. Colin got a raw deal…)

    This is GREAT that Sue digs “City”! And is one big reason why Chris Boucher knew this show’s potential better than other writers, even including Terry Nation at times. Even though Tarrant can be nasty, he too is multifaceted…

    I can think of one episode that’s coming up that might get 10/10… and, after that, one or two more stories that might fetch 9/10 as well. There’s one other that might ultimately fetch a 7 or 8. With the remaining three being average, with one of those three probably fetching a low score as well…

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    May 28, 2014 12:59 amPosted 3 years ago
    Chris Allen

    “He doesn’t look anything like Nyssa”

    Sarah Sutton certainly doesn’t seem to have aged well. 😉

    “I’m surprised Sue didn’t comment on how Kerril and Vila appear to have had sex with their clothes on”

    Pre-watershed Nick, Villa was lucky to get what he did. Or maybe Kerril was the lucky one? Gives a whole new meaning to Villa’s “bag of tricks”.

    Hugely enjoyable episode, Colin Baker as “Babe” is just the icing on the cake. Plus I always fancied Carol Hawkins from her Please Sir/Fenn Street Gang days.

    Tarrant? Well I’ll give the poor chap a bit of leeway here (somebody has to I guess). His bullying of Villa at the start is his misguided interpretation of how best to get results. He even admits that he got it wrong later in the episode.

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    May 28, 2014 1:33 amPosted 3 years ago
    Robin Brown

    Thank God for that. I was dreading a low score. Michael Keating apparently complained to Chris Boucher that his children thought Vila an idiotic coward (bang to rights, really) so Boucher wrote this for him. Sue is right – it’s one of the few episodes where he isn’t simply on hand to be an idiotic coward or offer up appalling punchlines. Shame, as Vila – as originally conceived and represented here – is a great character.

    Colin Baker is superb here too. My brother does a great impression of his final scene doing… well, whatever he’s supposed to be doing.

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      May 28, 2014 11:06 amPosted 3 years ago
      Nick

      “Colin Baker is superb here too. My brother does a great impression of his final scene doing… well, whatever he’s supposed to be doing.”

      Maybe you should get him along to one of Wyngeate’s B-7 themed stag nights!

      It’d be a blast! 🙂

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        May 29, 2014 9:53 pmPosted 3 years ago
        wyngatecarpenter

        I’m taking bookings,although strangely the phone’s been quiet for over ten years now.
        This blog is proving an invaluable guide for picking the episodes for the B7 Russian Roulette.

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    May 28, 2014 1:35 amPosted 3 years ago
    Harriet

    By Jove! I think she’s got it!

    (Ahem… this episode was written for you by CHRIS BOUCHER! I name the heroes as well as the guilty men…)

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    May 28, 2014 3:00 amPosted 3 years ago
    Katie C

    Sue:”He desperately needs a haircut. It looks like he’s wearing a wig”.

    Yes, and the funny thing is his hair was completely different at the start of the episode. He’s just been to the barbers for a quick colour rinse and blow dry.

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    May 28, 2014 3:36 amPosted 3 years ago
    Raymond

    As I recall, Michael Keating asked if they could write an episode where he didn’t look so bad. I think he might have been having a hard time from his children(?)

    Vila has always been my favourite character, it’s just annoying that many writers didn’t seem to know how to write him well. (In my view).

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      May 28, 2014 12:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      The actual words they’re said to have used were, ‘Daddy, you’re stupid!’.

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        May 29, 2014 12:25 amPosted 3 years ago
        Nick

        So what does Mr Boucher do for Mr Keating’s kids? He writes a story that has their dad shagging someone who isn’t their mum. Lovely!

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          May 29, 2014 6:24 amPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          Yeah….how about that? How did he explain that?
          Actually there was still a fair amount of sexism in this one too. The transformation of tough soldier to “Homeworld” housewife, collecting flowers, uselessly..I mean, if they’re going to be Adam and Eve, time to utilize some soldier skills? Stake out a safe place, find out if there are any dangers…not sit chucking rocks in a pool. And not choosing her own name: that really struck me.
          And then that tantrum, it was so classically “woman being irrational and man hopelessly not knowing what he’s done wrong but still hoping if he says sorry enough he’ll get sex”. I daresay she’s getting her period. Give me strength. Please, does anyone really have any experiences like this?

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            May 29, 2014 9:56 pmPosted 3 years ago
            wyngatecarpenter

            My theory being that Boucher commissioned Ben Steed to write Harvest Of Kairos specifically so that it could be on the week before and people would breathe a sigh of relief that this episode was only mildly sexist in comparison.

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    May 28, 2014 5:02 amPosted 3 years ago
    Amethyst

    Great to see the lovely Michael Keating taking centre stage. Boucher’s Season 3 scripts just get better and better IMO.

  • May 28, 2014 7:18 amPosted 3 years ago
    encyclops

    One of the highlights, no doubt about it. This episode does for Vila what Kinda and Snakedance do for Tegan: take a character I’m not super fond of and give the (quite decent) actor playing him/her a chance to shine by putting them at the center of the story. It’s not my very favorite, but it’s a strong contender.

    Related to my comments last time about the female characters: Cally gets some fine badass moments in this (quoted in the writeup) and Dayna gets an opportunity for the same. When I think of them, it’s moments like this I remember, and that’s why I like them.

    I didn’t remember much about the next episode when I rewatched the series recently. That ending is something else, that’s all I can say. I can never decide if it’s bathetic or actually rather touching. It’s probably going to depend on whether you’re a fan of the character in question or not.

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      May 29, 2014 9:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      It is one of that character’s best episodes.

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    May 28, 2014 7:18 amPosted 3 years ago
    Fiona

    Wonderful episode! What an opening!
    Avon: “I don’t know how you persuaded him to go, Tarrant”.
    Tarrant: “I appealed to his better nature”.
    Avon: “He hasn’t got one. Leave him alone in future”.
    Tarrant (cockily): “Or?”
    Avon: (in apparently a killing trance, with entirely black eyes, and absolutely no emphasis): “Do you want me to threaten you”.
    Tarrant: (suicidally): “Why not, I haven’t had a good laugh in ages”.
    Avon: (psychopathic whisper) “Sensible. You could die laughing….”

    Jesus. Could Avon be more menacing, more cool, and more totally gorgeous?
    Though agree he needs a haircut.

    And would Colin Baker have made a good Blake? I have never seen him as Doctor Who and will now have to take a look because he was scary as Bayban. I love the slightly butch gay look with the earring. It made him seem just a bit extra off-kilter, a bit sort of unstabilizing feeling. Here’s a guy trying to be top of the Federations most Wanted list, with a reputation for murder and mayhem…and he wears an earring…that was not usual then, so it must have been for a reason.

    I think he could have been a great Blake, if he said he was going to tear out the Federation’s heart, he’d do it with his teeth….and it would be believable. “They butchered my family and friends…” but would two very intense leads have worked?? Didn’t really see enough of him with Avon here to know.

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      May 28, 2014 8:03 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      I assumed the earring was to make Bayban look more piratical…

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        May 29, 2014 6:10 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        Oh yes! I guess that could be true as well…Well, maybe both?

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      May 28, 2014 9:12 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Tim Pieraccini

      For the love of GOD, don’t watch Colin Baker’s DW starting with his first story! Try Vengeance on Varos or The Two Doctors, or Revelation of the Daleks. Then go back and look at The Twin Dilemma, if you must. (And Timelash, for Mr Darrow)

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        May 29, 2014 6:40 amPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        Ok, thanks a lot, any more? Because I loved DW as a kid, but after Tom Baker I never watched anymore..I switched to B7, really.
        And then I tried to watch one with Billie Piper and it had a Dalek in it…I could not believe this…it was a sad and lonely Dalek, yearning to reach its inner Dalek and be free. Even though it shot lots of people, it ended with Billie Piper walking with it, one hand on its…head, I guess….and then she set it free, like a helium balloon, to drift upwards, forever….

        Jesus I nearly screamed. What next, Daleks in therapy? Daleks on Intervention or Hoarders? Daleks weepily proclaiming that their fathers never appreciated their third grade drawing of Davros and it scarred them so much they had to go on extermination rampages? Daleks who, save me, find Jesus?

        It would be something to hear a Dalek speaking in tongues, I suppose.

        Daleks are meant to be evil! Scary! That is what the sofa is for, to hide from Daleks! When I was a kid, my little sister absolutely refused to go upstairs alone after Doctor Who because I told her there was a Dalek in the bedroom. Did I ever get in trouble….Who could be scared of therapy daleks like this!
        So I didnt try again, plus I didnt like the guy who was being Doctor Who.
        But I will now, if I can find a good link.
        Oh and don’t people on this blog seem to diss Paul Darrow for Timelash? What’s that all about? He needs to stay perfect in my eyes….

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          May 29, 2014 12:42 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Tim Pieraccini

          Paul was clearly having an enormous amount of fun in Timelash. Approached with that in mind, you should at least enjoy him in it. it’s difficult to recommend any further Colin Baker, partly because there’s so little of it and also because his second season is all linked together. The three I mentioned are generally reckoned the best – if you like those, you could try others.

          Based on what you’ve said, you may find that new Who is generally too touchy-feely for you… Blink is a very strong episode but not much to do with the Doctor!

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            May 29, 2014 6:13 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            Really? that is interesting. Thanks! I dont know what it is about childhood things…I want them to stay the same!

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          May 30, 2014 3:31 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Robert

          > And then I tried to watch one with Billie Piper and it had a Dalek in it…I could not believe this…it was a sad and lonely Dalek, yearning to reach its inner Dalek and be free. Even though it shot lots of people, it ended with Billie Piper walking with it, one hand on its…head, I guess….and then she set it free, like a helium balloon, to drift upwards, forever….<

          Um… you seem to have missed the point. The Dalek wanted to die as it had been contaminated by Rose's touch. It felt it was now impure and then *blew itself up*.

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            May 30, 2014 3:54 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Smile

            It didn’t drift upwards either, it destroyed itself, dispersing its atoms.

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            May 31, 2014 5:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            Oh Lord it was ages ago. It was drifting up I remember that. Maybe this is where I was screaming. Why was she walking with her hand on it then?
            But whatever. I grew up with the Daleks from the very first memory of consciousness. The Daleks and the Yorkshire Ripper: things of real and tangible menace. There was a Doctor Who where a Dalek was going down a road ranting like they did and it was just a road, like it could actually be outside…
            When that unhappy Dalek opened up and there was this vulnerable looking thing inside..and when someone asked the Dalek what it wanted and it croaked “Freedom”…I mean, come on!
            Nazis, I thought they were meant to be Nazis, the SS. That was the truly horrifying thing about the Daleks, the implacability, the flat affect. I sometimes show clips to students with the sound down and they laugh but not when you add the voices.

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            June 1, 2014 10:50 amPosted 3 years ago
            Robert Dick

            >Why was she walking with her hand on it then?

            She wasn’t.

            >When that unhappy Dalek opened up and there was this vulnerable looking thing inside..and when someone asked the Dalek what it wanted and it croaked “Freedom”…I mean, come on!

            Nope. You’ve got this totally wrong.

            It kills itself because it realises it is getting emotions *AND DOESN’T WANT THEM*

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            June 1, 2014 11:11 amPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Exactly. Why not re-watch the story and take note of what’s going on?

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            June 1, 2014 6:44 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            I am sorry to put this as reply to you, robert…but I dont know why, there isn’t “reply’ on each post. So actually this is supposed to be for Smile…I did see a clip of many many Daleks. Sometimes Dr Who is shown on HK TV but often at funny times. There so many and they were all flying! Battalions and battalions it looked like. And all different colours, they looked extremely sleek and I thought that this looked like the BBC is actually putting money into this show now. And I seem to remember something where someone ran upstairs and I thought, ah he has got away, classic anti-dalek manouvre…but the dalek paused and slowly levitated. It was definitely done for humour…for all the foiled again daleks of the past!

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          May 31, 2014 7:03 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Smile

          Basically, when it’s still chained up in the cell it succeeds in persuading Rose to feel sorry enough for it that she places her hand on its outer shell. In doing so, that allows it to revitalise itself from the human DNA she has, but a side effect of that is that it also begins to develop human instincts, which it finds itself unable to cope with. As it is, so it believes, the last of its kind, and it doesn’t want to be partly humanised, it chooses to commit suicide. It rises a few yards upwards and explodes, essentially.

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            June 1, 2014 12:49 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            Oh Good Lord. It didnt look like that to me. Why did it want freedom then.

            Isnt it weird how something can be so vivid in your memory and apparently not be true. I can absolutely see Rose walking along with it.

            Anyway. My major point is, details or not, it was not scary. Not like the utterly terrifying Daleks of childhood. The thing inside looked all soft and easy to hurt. It just gave me the impression that everything else, the Daleks were being watered down and softened and compassionated and stuff. No more gravel round the swing-sets any more.

            I had just read a book at one of my students too which was Red Riding Hood, but instead of a Big Bad Wolf there was a naughty greedy wolf and he didnt eat grandma, but all grandmas cakes, and then Princess Barbie Goldenhood forgave him. The sad dalek seemed all of a piece. I mean, whatever, it was troubled, right?

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            June 1, 2014 12:54 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            Amazing how everyone remembers all the details…or do you all have DVDs?
            actually i am also amazed how everyone keeps saying they remember this and that from B7 when they were kids. I know I saw all of B7 but I remembered exactly none of it. Not even Avon’s good looks. that part came back to me..but nothing else. So its a revelation.

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            June 1, 2014 1:28 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Smile

            Rose was walking in accompaniment by the end, as she was beginning to sympathise with it, as its confusion had led to it refraining from killing Van Statten, the man who had caused it to be imprisoned. The idea of its last scene was to contrast the Doctor’s obsessive determination to kill it, when he enters, levelling a bug gun at it, with Rose’s recognition of the fact that its nature is altering.

            I’d say that episode was quite a special case really. As much as anything, it was setting out the scenario as designed for the start of the new version of the programme – that being that the Time Lords and the Daleks had seemingky destroyed each other in a war, and this Dalek was the last survivor of it, apart from the Doctor. Later stories brought the Daleks back en masse, and they’re more characteristic of their earlier selves in those.

            It wasn’t the first time experiments had been attempted with the nature of the Daleks. There’s a story from 1967, The Evil of the Daleks, where some Daleks get implanted with what’s refered to as the Human Factor, allowing them to develop human qualities, such as friendliness and benevolence, and playing games. Anyway. I’m getting a little off-topic here…

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            June 1, 2014 2:18 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Ironically, both ‘Evil of the Daleks’ and ‘Dalek’ weren’t written by ‘Mr Dalek’ himself, Terry Nation.

            To be fair though, he dead now, and couldn’t have written ‘Dalek’ anyway.

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        May 31, 2014 5:36 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        I found a clip on youtube of the Two Doctors…there was a horrid thing that looked like a turd, it was awful! A kid in a kilt stabbed it in the leg. It looks like they have more money to make it now?

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          May 31, 2014 7:04 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Tim Pieraccini

          Yes, the Sontarans in Two Doctors are not great (mind you, the modern ones are not as effective as early 70s ones). They filmed that in Seville – you’re supposed to be impressed…

          • May 31, 2014 11:21 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Andy L

            The Two Doctors broke my heart, I’m not sure if I finished watching it. How come they filmed it in Seville? My memory ot the thing is that it’s entirely set in a kitchen and the hallway outside. There’s a chef and his mustache is enormous, a lot of Langford-level screaming and terrible incidental music.

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          June 1, 2014 2:19 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          Legend has it that the Sontarans in ‘The Two Doctors’ (which were way too tall anyway) were the inspiration for ‘Mr Hanky in ‘South Park’… 😉

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            June 5, 2014 6:47 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            Mr Hankey!! That’s what it was. Thanks there Nick, because that’s been irritating me and I couldn’t think of any way to Google it. also I have been trying to stay off automatically googling because my memory is weakening through not using it.

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            June 5, 2014 10:16 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Smile

            The chef in The Two Doctors does not have any kind of tache at all, though he does have heavy eyebrows.

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            June 6, 2014 12:30 amPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Shockeye-ing!

            Even Bob Holmes could write the occasional duffer… or have his scripts mangled into duffers.

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    May 28, 2014 7:30 amPosted 3 years ago
    Fiona

    And wasnt it just so Avon to fix up that tracker? First declare he doesn’t care about Vila, then use all his scientific genius to make sure he’ll be traceable, then warn Tarrant to stop bullying him…and then just as you are going, aaahhh he does care! says it’s only because Vila is a talented thief. He’s just so, you know, deep.
    And who is expendable now, eh? “We can always replace….a pilot…”

    Suzi Quattro! That’s who it reminded me of! Vila must be a top shag because Suzi looked totally dazed and blissed out. But, family show, twin beds and not even smudged make-up. And boots on and not to be kinky. So now to youtube Devil Gate Drive…and there was another one?

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      May 28, 2014 2:19 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Anniew

      All those hints about nookies creeped me out because it just had to have been an immaculate penetration to leave them so untouched or some weirdy space technique that I’d really prefer not to fantasise about. Sex and skeletons is freaky too.

      • May 28, 2014 2:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Neil Perryman (Author)

        Blimey, anyone would think that none of you have ever had sex with your clothes on.

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          May 28, 2014 2:37 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Robert Dick

          Having read the Wife and Blake thread on the Horizon forum I’d add “or, indeed, off”.

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          May 28, 2014 3:11 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Anniew

          Um to each his own but encounters that leave you without a hair out of place? Perhaps Vila IS a little man and not much of a mover at that.

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        May 28, 2014 2:44 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Robert Dick

        >Sex and skeletons is freaky too.

        Oh, I dunno… gives me a boner.

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          May 28, 2014 4:08 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          Clash of the cymbals for Robert… Ai thenk yew! Ai thenk yew! 😀

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            May 29, 2014 4:54 amPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            totally seconded…

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        May 28, 2014 3:43 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        It has got a bit of BDSM dungeon about it. Skeletons…but twin beds. Kinky boots, blissful post-coital stretches… and undisturbed clothes.

        Strange and twisted messages brought to you by Blake’s 7.

        As if it wasnt bad enough developing a life-long taste in unsuitable men due to Avon. What hath this show wrought….

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          May 28, 2014 4:10 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          Can’t help but echo Neil’s comment here… Not only that – they “did it” with the lights ON! And they weren’t even married! Ooooh!

          As for the unclothed skeletons, maybe they stripped off before they made the – er – jump… 😉

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            May 28, 2014 8:35 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Anniew

            Well now:

            You can do it in the light
            You can do it in the dark
            Standing up, sitting down,
            With laughter or a snark.
            You can do it fully clothed
            You can do it in the buff
            Slow and gently, aggressive and rough
            You can do it any which way
            You damned please
            Whipped cream, ice cream, even cottage cheese
            Whips, restraints vibrators
            Whatever takes your fancy
            Safe and staid or reckless and chancy
            But -whatever choice you make the end is
            – well let’s be delicate and say-
            A certain mussed untidiness
            A certain disarray!
            Especially if your chosen sex venue
            Boasts neither shower or basin
            Bath or even loo!

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            May 29, 2014 12:26 amPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Annie…. it’s, well… educational! 🙂

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        May 29, 2014 6:43 amPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        yeah best leave weirdy space techniques to the fanfiction people. Cracked has a fantastic breakdown of the weirdest ones. Would you believe sex with Tetris? Would you believe a fanfic of over one million words..longer than any novel in English…all about sex with Biker Mice From Mars? A giant squid having sex with Hogwarts?
        Aren’t people amazing. I love them.

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          June 2, 2014 10:02 amPosted 3 years ago
          The Grouchybeast

          If you’re a fan of kinky fanfic sex in very unexpected fandoms, this is my absolute favourite example. NSFW. Not Safe For Brain. I won’t spoil the pairing, as the writer wants it to be a surprise:

          http://k9kennel.skeeter63.org/Twisted.htm

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            June 2, 2014 4:08 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            absolutely not a fan. Still. got nothing better to do…..lol…is this going to haunt my dreams and give me nightmares?

            See this is where Paul Darrow screwed up. If you make a comment like “Why is Gareth always raping me?” people are bound to go and find out what that means even if they wish, really really wish, they hadn’t.

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            June 5, 2014 7:08 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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      May 29, 2014 1:07 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Tim Pieraccini

      You’re probably thinking of Can the Can. There’s also You Can’t Give Me Love and She’s in Love With You but those were a bit later.

  • May 28, 2014 9:05 amPosted 3 years ago
    John Callaghan

    My joint fave with Gambit! Which means it’s downhill all the way, folks… 🙂

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    May 28, 2014 10:39 amPosted 3 years ago
    Nico

    I love this one too!

    My explanation for Kerril’s sudden change (and her screaming at spider webs when she’s a seriously tough gunhand) is that she saw her way out of there with maybe the nicest guy she’s mat in a long while, and thought she’d play the helpless female card to get our Vila to come over all protective. It worked too. It’s not the only time Vila ends up being a hero / rescuer because there’s no one else to do it.

    And for them being fully clothed afterwards: they thought they were going to die so got dressed and composed themselves to make decent corpses.

    It works for me!

    As for the Kezarni or whatever they call themselves, I wish they’d been explored a little more. To me they’re quite alien with some form of telepathy or a hive mind as only Norl speaks, yet the others all know what’s going on.

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      May 28, 2014 10:53 amPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      seems awful to get them all blown up, though. I assume that’s what happened? So Vila didnt make the biggest mistake, did he, he actually saved his life.
      Is that what happened though? Were the Whatever People all killed? Bit rum, right?

      Brilliant…they didnt want to be found by the next bunch as skeletons wrapped round each other…erm…naked.

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        May 28, 2014 1:02 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Smile

        The impression I’ve always got is that they survived and only Bayban was killed when the blast from the weapon rebounded on him. The others would have been transported to Vilaworld.

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          May 28, 2014 1:21 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          That’s how I saw it too.

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            May 28, 2014 2:40 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Robert Dick

            yeah, to be fair, it’s quite explicit. They’d already travelled through the door. The door closed. Bayban tried to open it again. Quite clear none one who had passed through the door already died.

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        May 28, 2014 1:21 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Dave Sanders

        Would that be ITV’s answer to Blake’s 7 then – The Whatever People?

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          May 28, 2014 3:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          Let’s write it. It’s about a group of surfers and dude-bros who go to start a revolution against the evil 1%…but forget and go to the mall instead.

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            May 28, 2014 9:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Dave Sanders

            Call it the ‘Oh, Do It Tomorrow People’.

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            May 29, 2014 4:52 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Rassilon

            That would be the recent remake of TTP then, if Stephens opening intro sounded just a little more bored then I don’t see it being renewed…. 😛

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            May 29, 2014 6:10 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Anniew

            How about calling it ‘ The Procrastinators’?

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        May 29, 2014 8:25 amPosted 3 years ago
        Nico

        The Kezarni all seemed to have gone through the portal with just Norl and Kerril left, so yes, Bayban just blew himself (and his gang) up.

        I don’t think Vila made a mistake by not going with Kerril either. He wasn’t really cut out to be a hunter/gatherer/barn raiser or whatever on a pioneer world, and I’d say he was well aware that Kerril had seen him at his best, and he wouldn’t be able to display his cleverness on a planet without technology. And what self-esteem he has is tied up with his cracksman skills. He’s had a crap season of it: taken off weapons, given nothing to do till now – no wonder Tarrant thinks he’s useless; Vila probably agrees by now. 🙁

        Perhaps if they’d left him two bracelets he might have convinced Kerril to go with him.

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      May 28, 2014 4:14 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Nick

      “My explanation for Kerril’s sudden change (and her screaming at spider webs when she’s a seriously tough gunhand) is that she saw her way out of there with maybe the nicest guy she’s mat in a long while…”

      I always kind of figured that Kerril was a bit like Vila – a con artists. She made herself out to be hard, look tough, dress the part, but underneath it all she’s a real girly girl who wants a real man. (Jarvik missed out there!). And guess what? Vila turns out to be the realest man of them all (atl east outside of fan fiction…)

      “And for them being fully clothed afterwards: they thought they were going to die so got dressed and composed themselves to make decent corpses.”

      Yes, nicely composed before being decomposed… 😉 (Sorry! Couldn’t resist it!)

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        May 29, 2014 8:28 amPosted 3 years ago
        Nico

        Ha ha ha, yep!

        I’m still not sure why Kerril would want to go off and be a pioneer, but Vila was wise not go too. Not his optimal environment.

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        May 29, 2014 6:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        That’s really interesting: how would they ever be able to trust one another? Not like Vila doesn’t get suspicious easily.
        And seriously, how bad have things got on the Liberator, that Vila would believe that Avon would try to poison him? Hiding the tracer instead of swallowing it..he really suspected Tarrant and Avon were going to kill him!

        Wow, look at that from Vila’s point of view….it’s terrifying. “Here, just swallow this, Vila….”

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    May 28, 2014 11:18 amPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    Good Blake episodes never inspire me to comment much beyond a satisfied ‘ aahhhhhhh’.

    ‘ Aaaahhhh’

    Ps I assume the ‘whatever people’ people were fine as they had been transmitted. Bayban Only blew up Heathrow . The plane had already left for Villa world.

    Pps. On re-watching this I finally understood why Villa won’t stay with Kerril. The new world + creepy new age hippies would = deadly boredom. Nice everyone got what they deserved for once though : Avon his crystals, Villa respect, Tarrant come-uppance, Girlies a bit of action.

    Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

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      May 28, 2014 3:38 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      Oh is that what it was? I thought that place was the actual city. I thought Vila didnt look too upset. I mean I thought I couldnt be getting it right. Admit I tend to tune out a bit in the middle of episodes, no matter how good, because there is always some long explanation and just like Avon, I dont care if the planets turn into mushrooms. I suppose we had long enough to get attached to Kerrill but the guy who wouldnt speak was just maddening.

      I mean, let’s face it, I really care what happens to Avon. and Vila too. somewhat.
      And Vilaworld or Homeworld but not Kerrilworld? See how it was?? Lean in, Kerrill. Lean in.

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    May 28, 2014 11:30 amPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    PPPS. . Bayban looked almost RUDELY like a turtle !

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      May 28, 2014 4:17 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Nick

      Good job his outfit didn’t have a helmet… er…

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        May 28, 2014 9:21 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Dave Sanders

        So all we saw was the turtle’s head.

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          May 29, 2014 11:44 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          Even so, it was a spunky performance…

          SORRY!!!

          (IT just slipped out….) 😉

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    May 28, 2014 12:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Rob

    Really glad that Sue rated this one 🙂 This eppy simply confirms my belief that Chris Boucher was one of the best staff writers that the BBC ever had – I rate him as highly as Robert Homes (and there are still two absolutely fantastic Boucher episodes to come :)).

    I still stand by the fact that Tarrant is played by a terrific actor and the scenes where he’s bullying Vila are so brilliantly played.

    35 years on and this series still manages to entertain and evoke such rare passion. I’m off now to play wit my Corgi Liberator toy 🙂

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    May 28, 2014 12:56 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    “You can’t like someone without them liking you back.”

    Er, yes you can Vila, it’s called the Internet. Or stalking. Definitely stalking. What, did they all forget Ben Steed had a go last week?

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      June 2, 2014 10:09 amPosted 3 years ago
      The Grouchybeast

      I think that line it’s a really sad reflection on the amount of love and affection Vila’s experienced in his life. He probably DOES start liking someone just because they’ve thrown him a tiny little scrap of kindness. It’s why he stays with the Liberator crew, even though he’s in danger all the time and often treated badly.

  • May 28, 2014 2:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Doc Whom

    What???

    I wait months for this review and you have the nerve to give us “we laughed so hard, we forgot to take notes”!!!

    I may forget but I’ll never forgive.

    Ah, “Devil May Drive”. That was the B side of the first single I ever got.

    • May 28, 2014 3:00 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      If you want to complain you can head over to the Horizon forum.

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        May 28, 2014 4:16 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Nick

        Never! It would be a risky Gambit, someone would yell “there’s nowhere to run” and I wouldn’t know The Way Back!

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          May 28, 2014 5:18 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Dave Sanders

          A terminal experience.

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    May 28, 2014 5:16 pmPosted 3 years ago
    San

    Vila and Bayban make this one. Nice to see Vila’s smarts and skills credited. Could Tarrant’s smugginess be more smug? Ugh.

    A black sky on a promised world? Or did they arrive at night?

    Nice little moment between Cally and Avon, all of Jan Chappell’s making–alas, Sue, I do not think that ship is truly seaworthy, but I like the teasing.

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      June 1, 2014 6:33 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      I dont know if you have seen this, but on youtube is a brilliant video by the completely brilliant zukalis, set to the old Benny Hill ‘Ernie, the fastest milkman in the West’. It is all about Blake and Avon rivalling over Cally. Nearly died laughing, really. The moment when it says ‘When she saw the size of ‘is ‘ot mince pies’, zukalis has managed to capture a second where Cally is standing next to Avon and glancing down…I really don’t know how she does it. She’s a genius. And I also love the one set to Bernard Cribbins Right Said Fred…it must have taken her days to do it. The timing…I cant believe it.

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    May 28, 2014 5:19 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    If I could drive, I’d have a GPS with Valentine Dyall’s voice on it.

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    May 28, 2014 7:00 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Richard Lyth

    Definitely one of my favourite episodes as well – an excellent script, Colin Baker in fine bombastic form and Michael Keating doing a fine job stepping up to the plate as a leading man. Kerril going from kick-ass soldier to soppy love interest is a bit of a disappointment, but the same thing happens in most Bond movies so I guess it would have been unremarkable at the time.

    Interesting how the best episodes of so many classic SF series have the word ‘City’ in the title – Doctor Who has City Of Death, Star Trek has City On The Edge Of Forever, and all three are as good as their respective series ever got. Probably a coincidence, but there you go.

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      May 29, 2014 4:51 amPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      I love the way the men here seem to like kick-ass women…this is great.

  • May 28, 2014 10:55 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Mat Dolphin

    Thank goodness for that!

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    May 29, 2014 9:59 amPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    Can anyone explain why Dana has twice been told by Avon to watch a dangerous villain (power play and City) off screen and twice has reported ‘he got away’. What is she DOING? Mending a broken nail?

    • May 29, 2014 4:41 pmPosted 3 years ago
      encyclops

      My only defense is that maybe she’s very good at killing people, and at building things that kill people, but not quite so good at sitting around guarding people. She’s also meant to be rather young, hence the incongruous remark about “the girl who killed Bayban” though Josette Simon at least looks and behaves like a woman, and can maybe be forgiven some small inexperience with guile.

      Also, it was in the script. 🙂

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        May 29, 2014 6:43 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        Fair enough. BOUCHER it’s down to you.

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      May 29, 2014 11:41 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Katie C

      Three times. At the end of Aftermath she couldn’t even watch Servalan for 2 minutes…

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        May 30, 2014 3:01 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        Attention Deficit Disorder . Wow the writers really build some interesting flaws into their heros.

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    May 29, 2014 10:01 amPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    It’s half term and as you can see I am avoiding housework and obsessing.

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    May 29, 2014 11:02 amPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    This is for Nick. Of course to be really educational I should have added

    You can do it in the domes you can do it on the grass
    You can do it any which way, even up …..on an ice planet with your first cousin

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      May 29, 2014 7:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      Or your sister if you’re Luke Skywalker. The ice planet still applies 🙂

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    May 29, 2014 12:25 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Rob

    Hmmm just had a quick look at the Horizon forum…

    You know I like to stick with the Wife & Blake…where it’s safe.

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    May 29, 2014 2:56 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    Or as Villa might put it

    There once was a Space thief called Villa
    Who said,”Sex with me is a killer.
    I move very well
    And you won’t look like hell
    ‘Cos I don’t muss a hair when I fill ya.”

    Annie’s on a roll. Or really really sad!

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      May 29, 2014 6:06 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      Wow Annie, not bad at all!

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        May 29, 2014 6:40 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        I thank yew

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          May 29, 2014 11:46 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          Nice one Annie! 🙂

          Just had a thought – maybe Kerril had a handy-dandy packet of space wet wipes about her person so they could both get nicely cleaned up afterwards…?

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            May 30, 2014 8:34 amPosted 3 years ago
            Anniew

            And where she kept it is as much a mystery as where Dana secreted the automated explosion bot. Oh no perhaps not. She could have tucked them down her boots (Kerril I mean). And Villa had enough room under his costume to conceal a range of grooming products and condoms. The juries still out about Dana.

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      May 30, 2014 2:05 amPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      There once was a place called Horizon,
      Said of Kairos, they’re keeping close eyes on.
      But of Jarvik and crew
      We all listened to Sue,
      So I went out for burgers with fries on.

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        May 30, 2014 8:35 amPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        Clever AND snarky. Avon class limerick.

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    May 29, 2014 5:07 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Rassilon

    The One where Sue finally gets Vila.

    Avon: Every silver lining has (it’s) a cloud.

    I also found that line in a odd little book called Cosmic Bandito’s & been using in it amongst many other SF quotes for more years than I care to recall.

    Agree Nico’s observation that Kerril is the “Vila” of Baybans group & that Vila may be the best way out of her current lifestyle.

    Shame Sue didn’t comment on Avon’s defending Vila further (Breakdown: Invitation to join him by means of a question) & Posh Tawant’s half assed apology.

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    May 29, 2014 10:09 pmPosted 3 years ago
    wyngatecarpenter

    Thinking about it this was the first episode that I remember really clearly from back in the day. I remember seeing a lot of earlier episodes but it’s more just the odd scene , or a general impression of the episode. I have no memory whatsoever of watching Volcano or Kairos, even though I watched every week, but with this one I could pretty much remember the whole plot. I put this down to watching it with my mum who explained to me that the reason Vila now fancied Kerril was because she’d had a wash. With hindsight I think she was trying to hint at something.

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    May 29, 2014 10:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Jess Patton

    Sue: These two are definitely shagging.

    Good look with ‘Sarcophagus’ Neil, good luck.

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    May 30, 2014 6:31 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Amethyst

    @ Dave Sanders

    They watched at a place called Horizon
    A man called Jarvik and said “Like your style, Son”!
    But we said he’s a prat
    And a chauvinist at that-
    (And I’d rather have been trampled by bison).

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      May 31, 2014 5:14 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      you’re good at this. i am having trouble trying to write an extra adventure for Isabel the self-reliant (Ogden Nash). It’s hard.

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    June 1, 2014 12:49 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    ‘Well Dayna ‘ said Avon with snark
    ‘Conceals weapons in places quite dark.
    Then when things get hairy
    With methods quite scary
    Ignites them just for the lark!

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      June 1, 2014 6:21 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      Awesome! …’hairy’??Was that intentional? I think this definitely the best one yet.

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        June 1, 2014 7:13 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        Fortuitous Fiona. Wish I could claim otherwise 🙂

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    June 2, 2014 10:15 amPosted 3 years ago
    The Grouchybeast

    I’m really pleased that Sue enjoyed CatEotW. I was a bit worried, what with her overall lack of enthusiasm for Vila, but it’s one of the best single-character centered stories (although maybe not the absolute best).

    Now keeping my fingers crossed for Deathwatch!

  • June 2, 2014 2:15 pmPosted 3 years ago
    John Callaghan

    There’s a lovely moment when an extra walks into the room and is immediately told “get out!”, whereupon he walks back out again. Should have happened in every episode.

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    June 11, 2014 6:53 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Supersynths

    Well said Sue.

    Never warmed to Tarrant as a character from the start and his treatment of Vila at the beginning of this episode sealed it for me. Vila should have shot him when he wasn’t looking!

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    June 14, 2014 7:10 amPosted 3 years ago
    Alexandra

    I lost interest a long time ago but watched this after reading Sue’s review, and I found it very enjoyable. Really funny dialogue, a clever central conceit, and Colin Baker was superb as an unhinged villain. As bombastic as the performance is, there’s nuance in what he does with his face when he isn’t talking. I couldn’t take my eyes off him.

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