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The Harvest of Kairos

Rock Bottom…

The Harvest of KairosThe Liberator is orbiting a planet when Tarrant detects two Federation ships heading their way.

Tarrant: It’s an old Federation manoeuvre. Unimaginative, but so’s a punch in the mouth. At least it tells us who sent them.

Dayna: Servalan.

Sue: Oh no, not again. And it was going so well.

Me: We’re less than a minute into this.

Sue: I know.

Millions of miles away, President Servalan is micromanaging the Federation’s latest attack on the Liberator.

Sue: She’s redecorated her spinning house. It’s a bit grim but at least it shows off her Fairy Godmother outfit.

Servalan can’t wait to bring Tarrant down.

Servalan: This time we get it right.

Sue: She never used to be this hammy. I can’t take her seriously any more. She’s a pantomime villain. I remember when Blake’s 7 used to be gritty and interesting.

Vila and Avon teleport back the Liberator.

The Harvest of KairosSue: That was a long way to go for a tab.

Sue isn’t very keen on Avon’s extramural activity.

Sue: Is this what Avon has been reduced to now – collecting rocks? I remember the good old days when they were looking for Star One and their lives had some kind of meaning. What is the point of them any more?

People are beginning to think that Servalan looks tired, and one man in particular has been taking the piss out of her below decks. When Sue finally meets Jarvik, he reminds her of a young Timothy Dalton. He’s definitely the strong, silent type.

Servalan: Well? Have you nothing to say to Servalan?

Pause.

Sue: I bet he doesn’t even have an Equity card.

Jarvik: Woman, you are beautiful.

Sue: He thinks he’s Tarzan. Oh my God. No way!

Yes way.

Sue: Did that just happen? Did he just snog her face off? Is she dreaming this? Am I dreaming this?

Sue ain’t seen nothing yet; just take a look at this (text wouldn’t do it justice):

Sue: What the **** is Servalan doing? Surely the guards should be standing in front of her, not the other way round. This is ridiculous. Who directed this rubbish?

Me: Gerald Blake.

Sue: That’s all we ****ing need! Another useless Blake! I mean, look at her! WHAT IS SHE DOING?

Servalan and Jarvik discuss Tarrant’s tactics.

Sue: Hang on a minute. This doesn’t make sense. They’re talking about Tarrant like he’s a big deal or something. When did that happen? It’s as if they wrote this for Blake and then they did a find-and-replace on the script at the last-minute.

The Harvest of KairosMe: As if!

Tarrant wants the crew to dabble in a bit of piracy.

Sue: So is this what they do now, they fly around the universe stealing rocks? I can’t believe I’m saying this but the crew are flapping about now that Blake has gone. At least Blake had a vague plan. This lot haven’t got a plan at all.

Just like Hank on Breaking Bad, Avon is completely obsessed with his rock.

Sue: I quite like the fact that Avon is having his own little adventure and he can’t be arsed with Tarrant. It’s just a shame that Tarrant is the one who’s having the interesting adventure.

Servalan discovers that Jarvik used to be a Space Captain, but when she searches the Federation’s computer records, she is taken by surprise.

Servalan: Why?

Jarvik: Because I am a human being.

Sue: Er… was that supposed to mean something? Her screen went a bit wobbly and that was it. Am I missing something?

Servalan decides to employ Jarvik as her right-hand man, even if he is a poet with a temper.

The Harvest of KairosServalan: But first, there is the question of that degrading and primitive act to which I was subjected in the control room.

Sue: (as Servalan) I liked it.

Servalan: I should like you to do it again.

Sue: Oh. My. God. I was only joking!

The last time Sue’s jaw was this slack, Ingrid Pitt was karate kicking a sea monster in the face.

Sue: What the hell am I watching? Because it isn’t Blake’s 7!

Servalan gives the order for the slave workers on Kairos to be left there to die because the Federation have exceeded their baggage allowance.

Sue: What a bitch. I thought a quick shag would have improved her mood.

Down on Kairos, someone is about to fall off a fence.

Sue: STUART!

A particularly nasty guard is also left there to die.

Sue: Ha! Serves you right, you Nazi ****. I enjoyed that.

The Harvest of KairosJarvik prepares to coordinate his attack on the Liberator.

Sue: This is vaguely exciting, I suppose.

Jarvik: Sit down and shut up.

Sue: Charming. I can’t believe that Servalan is putting up with his nonsense. It doesn’t feel right.

Even though they are under attack, Avon forces Cally to stare at his rock.

Tarrant: Is this the time or the place?

Sue: Tarrant does have a point. What’s got into Avon this week?

Avon: I understand that this ship is the most powerful in the galaxy and that you are the most astute space warfare commander.

Sue: Is that it, then? Has Avon given up? I’m not happy about that. Avon should be the one in charge. That’s silly.

The Liberator evades the Federation’s pursuit ships.

Sue: I didn’t know that the ship could roll like that. Why has it never done that before?

Me: Tarrant must be a better pilot than Jenna because Tarrant is A MAN!

Sue: Don’t you start.

Jarvik: Gently now, Killer Three. Ease your way in.

I can’t stop giggling.

The Harvest of KairosSue: I bet he’s exactly the same in the bedroom.

When Servalan believes that she’s lost the battle, she throws a temper tantrum. Jarvik has to restrain her on a cream leather couch; no Battle HQ is complete without one.

Jarvik: Lie there and keep quiet until I tell you otherwise.

Sue: This episode is beginning to make me feel uncomfortable. Why are you laughing, Neil?

Tarrant’s gang are in the middle of transferring the Federation’s precious cargo of Kairopan to the Liberator when they are ambushed by security guards.

Guard: Stay exactly where you are, and don’t get excited!

Sue: Not much chance of that, mate.

Avon pops his head into the A-plot and saves the day.

Sue: The director really hasn’t got a clue. I’m beginning to feel embarrassed for the actors.

Jarvik has the last laugh: there are more guards in the Kairopan containers.

Sue: Idiots.

The Harvest of KairosServalan teleports to the Liberator.

Sue: Servalan does have one redeeming feature.

Me: What’s that?

Sue: She’s one of the few people in Blake’s 7 who pronounces Avon’s name correctly. I’m sick and tired of people calling him “Avin” all the time.

Servalan dumps our heroes on Kairos.

Sue: I bet they eat Vila first.

Back at Space Command, Jarvik is tempting Servalan with his unzipped jumpsuit.

Me: There’s some eye-candy for you, love.

Sue: He should be wearing a gold medallion in the shape of the Federation logo.

Servalan: You really are a primitive, aren’t you? Come.

Sue: Stop laughing, Neil.

Kairos is covered in a strange web.

Sue: Haven’t we been here before? Is it the Yeti?

The Harvest of KairosServalan and Jarvik are enjoying a postcoital glass of Lenor when Jarvik admits that he doesn’t like Mutoids very much, and he certainly wouldn’t want to live next door to any of them.

Sue: Racist and sexist. Such an attractive combination. Give your head a shake, Servalan.

Servalan wants Jarvik to prove his masculinity to her.

Servalan: If you’re to be man enough for me, to be co-ruler with Servalan, you must meet Tarrant face to face, man to man.

Sue: Whoever wrote this episode has some serious problems with women.

Avon discovers a 1960s NASA lunar module in an abandoned aircraft hangar.

Sue: What the hell? Who left that there? Is this episode going to go all timey-wimey now? EH?

Jarvik teleports to Kairos so he can retrieve the crew’s teleport bracelets (Lesley Judd must have been killed in the war).

Sue: Did he raid Blake’s wardrobe before he left? He looks like a right dick.

Jarvik narrowly avoids a giant ant.

The Harvest of KairosSue: Oh dear. And do you know what the worst thing about that is?

Me: That it looks like a giant hoover bag?

Sue: No. It’s that it probably cost a small fortune to make it. I bet most of the budget went on that… that… thing. What a joke.

Vila is snoring his head off in the lunar module.

Sue: This is the first time I’ve ever been jealous of Vila.

Cut to Vila standing in a field.

Sue: What the ****?

Me: Eat your heart out, Eisenstein.

Avon is still admiring his rock.

Avon: This happens to be the most sophisticated life form that it has ever been my good fortune to come across. Present company not excepted.

Sue: Not only that, you can scrub your back with it in the shower.

Dayna cries out in terror. She is tangled up in a deadly web, helpless against the monstrous insect advancing towards her. At least that’s what it said in the script.

The Harvest of KairosDayna: Do something!

Sue: Yeah, stop laughing at her. This is serious. Look, pet, just kick your boot off and walk away. Honestly, the direction is a joke. And why is this thing rubbing its arse on the floor like that? That’s what Buffy used to do when she had worms.

Jarvik arrives to save the day.

Jarvik: You, woman. Give it the Kairopan.

Sue: I wish I had some Kairopan. This is giving me a headache.

Avon decides to keep his distance.

Sue: I bet Paul Darrow refused to be filmed anywhere near that thing. Oh look, there’s a static caravan in that field over there. Somebody is doing a self-build on Kairos.

The ant shuffles back the way it came.

Sue: Oh for ****’s sake. Don’t show it again!

Jarvik and Tarrant fight.

Sue: Why are the crew standing there watching this; do they really hate Tarrant that much? It’s four against one! Five if you count Vila. Just walk over there and PUNCH THE BAD GUY IN THE FACE!

Tarrant and Jarvik tussle on the floor while Ken Russell blushes off-screen.

The Harvest of KairosSue: Why is the director shooting this as a love scene? GET A ROOM!

Tarrant is overpowered by Jarvik’s MALENESS.

Sue: To be fair, I could probably take Tarrant.

Dayna decides to have a go next, leaving Avon to race off to the lunar module, where he finally loses his patience with Tarrant.

Tarrant: There’s nothing I can do with this.

Avon: YOU CAN GET IT OFF THE GROUND!

Sue: Paul Darrow wasn’t acting then.

It’s Dayna’s turn to wrestle with Jarvik on the floor.

Sue: That’s right, Cally, just stand back and watch. Don’t help your friend or anything silly like that. Unbelievable.

The giant ant returns for seconds.

Sue: Just kick it in the face.

Jarvik teleports to the Liberator with Dayna. Tarrant launches the lunar module, just in time to escape a deadly hail of plasma bolts. It doesn’t look good for our heroes but Avon has an ace up his sleeve. Yes, you guessed it. His rock.

The Harvest of KairosAvon: Sopron is a mirror. A distorting mirror. It reflects a slightly greater image of whatever it is that happens to be scanning it. Zen saw a capacity charged brain, because that is what Zen is. Orac saw a highly sophisticated computer, because that is what Orac is.

Sue: And the director is making this look like crap, because that is what he is.

Avon: The question is, what will Servalan see, and will she be fooled by it?

Sue: Given that everybody in this episode so far has been fooled by the bad special effects, I’m going to say ‘yes’.

Tarrant’s bluff works, but because Servalan is a sore loser, she orders Dayna’s execution.

Jarvik: No, wait. There’s no need to –

The security guard accidentally shoots and kills Jarvik. Well, I say ‘accidentally’. It’s staged so badly, it looks like he did it on purpose.

Sue: WHAT THE -? Rewind that. Oh my God. What was the director thinking? That settles it. This is the worst directed episode of Blake’s 7 – or Doctor Who – that I’ve ever seen. It’s dreadful. How was this ever broadcast? Were people still watching Blake’s 7 at this point?

Me: Approximately 9 million people every week. Prime time BBC-1.

The Harvest of KairosSue: Unbelievable. And nobody complained?

Me: Terry Wogan did. Regularly.

Sue: I’m not surprised. This is shocking. Why are you laughing, Neil?

Servalan evacuates the Liberator.

Sue: So does this mean that an inanimate lump of rock is now a regular member of the crew? They should call it Gan.

Avon is pleased to see the back of Jarvik, but Tarrant mourns for Adonis.

Tarrant: He was a special sort of man.

And for the first time in this experiment, Sue throws a cushion at the television screen instead of me.

Tarrant: Get us out of here. I’ve had enough of this place.

Sue: And I’ve had enough of this ****ing episode! Make it stop!

Cue credits.

The Score:

Sue: Irredeemable sexist crap.

0/10

Me: Wow.

Sue: It was badly directed, offensive, stupid and badly directed. And what made it even worse was the sexist pig was shown to be right ALL THE TIME. I kept waiting for a woman to kill him. I thought there would be a progressive message at the end about the battle of the sexes. Something that might excuse it. But no. I bet the writer has a tiny cock.

Me: Would you like me to subject you to it again?

Sue: Only if you let me slice off your testicles first.

Me: Woman, kiss me!

Sue: **** off, Neil.

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    May 22, 2014 7:17 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Joe Fearon

    I am loving this blog…
    Is there any more shows that you’ll be watching together?

    • May 22, 2014 7:19 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      No, this will be it.

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        May 22, 2014 9:56 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Geoff

        Ha! I don’t blame you Neil! The marriage can only survive so much! Me and my wife did B7 a couple of years ago and she really enjoyed it but we’ve had very little success with Dr Who unless it’s a Robert Holmes effort or Colin Bakers in it. BTW I hate the way they constantly get Avons name wrong too except it’s worse than Sue says. They don’t even say “Avin” most of the time they just say “Avn”. Blake was the worst one for it.

        Of course one benefit to this experiment is that if you happen to find a child’s eyepatch from a pirate costume in the house you can raise a laugh by putting it on and saying “I swear I will kill you Blake”, not that I’ve done that…

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          May 22, 2014 11:30 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Frankymole

          Ironically Blake was played by a Welshman, and if anyone should know how to say the word “avon” it’s a Welsh person!

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        May 23, 2014 12:25 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Rob

        Noooooooooo! The experiment must continue! The internet will become pointless if this blog ends after B7.

        Can I plant the idea of Gerry Anderson’s ‘UFO’ in your head? 🙂

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          May 23, 2014 6:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          Hey! I was thinking exactly that… and Sue should be pleased that it’s only 26 episodes or thereabouts.

          Mind you, how about watching all the James Bond films? She loved Jarvik after all… 😀

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            May 23, 2014 8:43 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Frankymole

            A UFO episode (Timelash?) is, I believe, amongst the Kickstarter-requested series which Sue is going to view single episodes of. I’ve lost track – when and how are those going to be done? As part of this blog, or a website page, or another means?

          • May 23, 2014 10:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Neil Perryman (Author)

            Those standalone episodes are exclusives for the Kickstarter backers. They get them in an ebook in the Autumn. They won’t be part of this blog and they won’t be published online anywhere else. We’ve already watched a handful, including UFO.

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            May 23, 2014 11:26 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Sounds good!

            And UFO’s Timelash is one of my favourite episodes.

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            May 24, 2014 2:35 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            Charlie’s Angels? “Oh, look, bolt-cutters” in a farmyard, just when we need them to cut off our handcuffs….
            I hated this episode. I had heard this Ben Steed was a dreadful sexist.
            But it does put all that Operation Yewtree stuff into a 70s perspective. Dave Lee Travis getting done for putting his hand up a skirt…it was just like that then. Men pinched women in the street and you were meant to be complimented. I remember my outrage…and I was only a girl…at the way the Yorkshire Rippers’ victims were divided into ‘prostitutes’ and ‘innocent women’.
            It was a horrible time compared to now. And look at this show. Just look at it.
            How many times did that swaggering queen…and I dont mean Servalan…say “Man” with a capital M? “As a Man, Tarrant is worthy of honour…” ffs. Give me a break. That cracking sound is my back breaking as I cringe too hard.
            All he lacked was chest hair and a medallion. What the hell is happening? What has happened to the gritty reality of Spacefall? Why have they squandered all the political possibilities?
            The whole premise of B7 is mad really. Revolutionaries like Blake need theory and Party discipline and stuff. The only one I can think of that commanded a rabble of junkies, butch queens, and brawlers, was Ernst Roehm and his SA…and see, it’s just an embarrassment. Could Blake have had Vila at diplomatic dinners? Avon insulting everyone and distracting all the females?

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          May 23, 2014 7:04 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Licence

          … or a one off special ‘Nightmare Man’ post. It was Robert Holmes and Douglas Camfield. Surely that would tempt Sue?

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            May 23, 2014 8:44 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Frankymole

            Again, if it was asked for in the Kickstarter, it will presumably happen but Neil & Sue have quite a few different series’ episodes there to get through!

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        May 23, 2014 1:31 pmPosted 3 years ago
        James

        But I was so looking forward to The Tomorrow Wife.

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          May 23, 2014 11:27 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Nick

          I reckon they should do Grange Hill,.

          Flippin’ ‘eck, Tucker! 😉

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    May 22, 2014 7:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Jonathan Baldwin

    As much as zero? She was generous.

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    May 22, 2014 7:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Amethyst

    “Irredeemable, sexist crap. 0/10”.

    SUE YOU ROCK!
    (Possibly a bit generous with the score though).

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      May 23, 2014 12:54 amPosted 3 years ago
      Katie C

      And only slightly worse than Trial! After Voice from the Past scored a respectable 6/10 I thought Sue might enjoy Kairos, but I forgot, a bad director is unforgivable for Sue. And of course there’s the sexist crap, which is why I try and convince myself that Ben Steed’s episodes don’t really exist…

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    May 22, 2014 7:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Smile

    I do like the fact that Avon shows no interest at all in the would-be masculinity floating through the episode, demonstrates how cunning can win out over Tarrant’s gung-ho grandstanding, and dismisses Jarvik as a thug rather than eulogising his maleness.

    Sue: Unbelievable. And nobody complained?

    Clive James gave it a right hammering when he reviewed it that week in his newspaper column.

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      May 23, 2014 12:42 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Harriet

      You beat me to it, I was going to quote the Clive James review. What was it, “Flaming nonsense from beyond the galaxy”?

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        May 23, 2014 1:00 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Smile

        “Flaring nonsense”, but otherwise yes. Although he was very taken with Jacqueline Pearce as Servalan, and Jacqueline Pearce’s portrayal, describing her as the main reason, at least for him, for watching it.

        I think he may also have interviewed Pearce on one of his shows years later, in an edition that was looking at science fiction on television. Might have been a few other Blake’s 7 and Doctor Who actors on the same one too. I think Anneke Wills was one of those who also appeared on it.

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          May 25, 2014 12:48 amPosted 3 years ago
          Harriet

          Oh yes, was that the one where they had several Who companions including Sophie Aldred, and John Scott Martin still being a Dalek?

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            May 25, 2014 12:48 amPosted 3 years ago
            Harriet

            And slow fighting! Didn’t James go on about slow fighting in Blake’s Seven?

  • May 22, 2014 7:52 pmPosted 3 years ago
    encyclops

    The only thing better than a great Blake’s 7 episode is a terrible Blake’s 7 episode. And all three Ben Steed episodes are awesomely, sublimely, almost incomprehensibly terrible.

    If you strip out the sexism — a tall order, but stay with me — they’re really quite colorful storywise. If you allow for the doofiness and the unintentionally hilarious visual effects (and just wait for the next one!), they’re all more entertaining and memorable than, say, your average Allan Prior.

    But yes, all three of them have fascinatingly…troubled relationships with women, technology, and masculinity. As insights into the writer’s psyche, they’re gifts that keep on giving. I’m glad Sue spotted the weird homoeroticism here; it’ll be back, as all three of these pair their rotten attitudes toward women with intriguingly yearning attitudes toward male friendship and intimacy. I’m not saying Steed was a closet case — pretty much every gay man I know adores women — but I do think that theme isn’t a coincidence.

    As for Jarvik’s treatment of Servalan…were it any other woman I would be thoroughly appalled, but with her I’m only mostly appalled. I’m convinced that, at least initially, she finds him legitimately entertaining; she’s powerful enough, both politically and personally, that I can’t imagine she’s had a man attempt to dominate her without being ordered to in ages, and if any woman can treat men like this as toys she can. My read was always that he was a fun diversion and a potentially useful catspaw to her, and that she was fully prepared to get rid of him as soon as she got bored or he started to believe too sincerely that he was the one in charge. In other words I’m not worried about her at all; she has as much control over the situation as she wants and is just having fun. I don’t condone Steed’s choices or think he perceives the situation as I do — I think he thinks Jarvik really has the upper hand — but I find my reading redeems that part of the story for me and elevates Servalan rather than demeaning her.

    So yes: like most people, I hate Ben Steed’s writing. But I LOVE to hate it, and that’s not something I’d say about every subpar Blake’s 7 episode.

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      May 22, 2014 9:58 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Anniew

      You know I can’t see it as misogynistic. He steps over the line and forces a kiss on her. She puts him in the brig for it. Decides she likes a bit of rough and has him over for fun and frolic. She’s in charge all the time. Backed up by the military might of the Federation. I don’t share her taste in men but I defend her right to choose to be thrown over the sofa by a primitive if that’s what turns her on.

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        May 24, 2014 2:49 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        “Steps over the line and forces a kiss on her”? It was outrageous….and so is the whole idea that what this competent ruthless commanding female really really wants is a big fellow to give her a spanking, a rogering, and put her in an apron. He said as much with that cringe-worthy speech about feeling the sun on your back, and all…he may as well have said, You’re no longer a Woman, Woman. What you need is a Man. Heaven’s sake, he took her by the neck…shut up, lie down.
        Funny, when Avon does that, I don’t mind…why is that?
        Perhaps because Avon isnt from Planet Closet.
        Dear dear Lord. I wanted to love all of Blake’s 7. Have to try and take perspective. Like when people go to prison and console themselves with little happinesses. See this as contrast for the good times. I hope there are some more.
        And incidentally, what has happened to the fabulous fighting abilities of Dayna? “Tarrant! Avon!!! Help me help me! I-am-only-a-girl!” I am afraid of cobwebs!” She broke a guy’s neck!

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        May 25, 2014 1:02 amPosted 3 years ago
        wyngatecarpenter

        ” I defend her right to choose to be thrown over the sofa by a primitive if that’s what turns her on.”

        Fair enough, but it’s funny how in Ben Steed’s universe that seems to be what all women want. Power is even worse.

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          May 25, 2014 1:28 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          oh please dont say that.

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          May 26, 2014 5:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Anniew

          Dana wants to throw HIM over the sofa! And Cally isn’t exactly swooning.

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            May 27, 2014 3:15 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            Dayna could easily throw Avon over anything. He’s tiny. Mind you he’s pretty handy for a little guy.
            Actually it would be cool to see Dayna do that. I bet Avon would like it.

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    May 22, 2014 7:52 pmPosted 3 years ago
    San

    Yes, yes, YES! Not an ordinary zero either, a zero million billion degrees beneath all the zeros in the universe!

    I couldn’t believe it when I first saw this. But the worst is that… someone gave this creep this job, and okayed this… and commissioned MORE. Random maniacs happen all the time, but to have them aided and abetted so they get to fling their manure at the millions… can’t explain nor forgive it.

    “Eat your heart out, Eisenstein.”

    This cracked me up. I wish I could believe only some luckless newbie wanted to touch that script.

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      May 22, 2014 8:37 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      “someone gave this creep this job, and okayed this… and commissioned MORE.”

      Presumably Chris Boucher. Weird.

  • May 22, 2014 8:01 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Alex Wilcock

    Oh dear.

    He should be wearing a gold medallion in the shape of the Federation logo.

    I laughed.

    Stop laughing, Neil.

    I have to as well. Sorry. Jacqueline Pearce saves it for me – playing it the only way you could and still retain some dignity.

    Whoever wrote this episode has some serious problems with women.

    And the worst of it is, this isn’t even Ben Steed’s most appalling pile of sexist tripe for the series. It isn’t even his second worst…

    This is the worst directed episode of Blake’s 7 – or Doctor Who – that I’ve ever seen.

    It’s pretty poor, but my vote still goes to Meglos, and here’s why: http://loveandliberty.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/dvd-taster-doctor-who-meglos.html

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      May 22, 2014 10:31 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Simon Harries

      That’s an AMAZING review of Meglos. Really enjoyed it 🙂 I really ought to watch Harvest of Kairos again but, to be honest, I can’t bear the thought of it. I’d rather watch Meglos!

      • May 27, 2014 1:56 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Alex Wilcock

        Awwhh, thank you 😀

        In favour of watching this over Meglos… Well, at least it’s only half the length!

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    May 22, 2014 8:03 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    Kairos is still the least-worst of Ben Steed’s episodes, being marginally less shit in reality than it’s made to look.

    Yes, I nicked the Sopron from John Williams twitter feed, and I don’t care.

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    May 22, 2014 8:12 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Charles Norton

    She’s absolutely right. The script should never been allowed to go into production.

  • May 22, 2014 8:16 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Mat Dolphin

    Come on Sue, nought out of ten?

    This episode is far more fun than half the stuff in series one. And Avon’s preoccupation with the rock is hilarious.

    But the future looks bleak for this blog if Sue is fed up with Servalan already.

    Next week – Vila’s last chance to impress our judge?

    • May 22, 2014 9:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Philip Ayres

      Avon’s preocupation with the rock sort of gets explained next week: listen to what they’re looking for there which hasn’t been stated yet…..

      ….. but if there’s one thing S3 gets really wrong it’s the playing up the links between episodes. certain stuff makes much more sense and would have made a better season if Boucher had done this!

      As for Stead’s scripts…. both this and the next are terrible but I’ve got a soft spot for Power.

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        May 25, 2014 12:50 amPosted 3 years ago
        Harriet

        This one merely disgusts me. Power is the one that has me spitting with rage.

  • May 22, 2014 8:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Roddy Shears

    Season 3 was doing so well, and then Allan Prior and Ben Steed had to come along and ruin it. Still, fingers crossed for the next outing.

    Also, Glen’s trailer is particularly hilarious this time.

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      May 22, 2014 8:55 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      Surely Jim Follett should also get his share of the blame.

    • May 22, 2014 10:03 pmPosted 3 years ago
      encyclops

      Also, Glen’s trailer is particularly hilarious this time.

      He keeps outdoing himself. It’s going to be murder on him when we get to series 4.

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    May 22, 2014 8:30 pmPosted 3 years ago
    wyngatecarpenter

    Excellent, the best so far! That’s Sue’s review, not the episode itself. I agree with pretty much everything Sue said about it , and the 0/10 was richly deserved.
    Sue put her finger on a couple of the things about this season that I don’t like – the general aimlessness, and Servalan the pantomime dame. She seemed vaguely credible as a political manipulator in Seasons 1 & 2,now she seems silly.
    Jarvic is either one of the worst written characters in B7, or one of the worst acted , but probably both.
    I suppose some might argue that it’s just the character of Jarvic that’s a misogynist and that it doesn’t follow that the message of the episode is misogynistic, but I can’t help feeling that he’s written as a mouthpiece for Ben Steed to express views on how real men should put women in their place. Servalan enjoys it ,what else can we conclude?
    And how is that until this point no one at all has escaped the very slow, lumbering insects unless they all died laughing.
    Absoloute crap. Things start to improve for a bit after this (it’ll be interesting to see how Sue copes with the next episode though)

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      May 22, 2014 11:37 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      Possibly, although Servalan is fairly perverse; and Dayna is the one who fights Jarvik, and whom Jarvik pretty much fails to beat, isn’t she? So it’s ambiguous on the “real men” front.

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        May 23, 2014 11:43 amPosted 3 years ago
        Ian Banks

        “Jarvik pretty much fails to beat”

        Exactly! It’s moments like this and some of the events in the other episodes by Mr Steed that sometimes make me wonder if he isn’t just having a laugh at the “battle of the sexes.” But then I rewatch them…

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          May 23, 2014 4:48 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Angela R.

          The most entertaining thing about Ben Steed episodes is boggling at the strangely mixed messages you seem to get. His episodes are just too bizarre to be boring. You’ve also got to wonder what the actors thought when they read the scripts. No way is the actor playing “Jarvik” taking his character seriously.

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        May 23, 2014 9:02 pmPosted 3 years ago
        wyngatecarpenter

        “Possibly, although Servalan is fairly perverse;”

        The thing with the Steed episodes is that you can watch them individually and say, for example, just because Servalan enjoys it doesn’t mean Steed is endorsing snogging women against their will, and it’s just a quirk of her character, but if you watch all of his episodes there’s a consistent pattern.

        “Dayna is the one who fights Jarvik, and whom Jarvik pretty much fails to beat, isn’t she? So it’s ambiguous on the “real men” front.”

        A minor detail that seems to go against the grain of Steed’s message. So much so that I wonder if it’s in the script, or something that the director / cast added during filming. I can imagine Steed watching the transmitted episode and fuming when it gets to this scene and deciding that if he contributes an episode next season he will correct things. Just a theory.

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        May 24, 2014 2:52 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        Oh does she…i actually couldnt watch it til the end. I thought she had just gone to bits.

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      May 23, 2014 12:06 amPosted 3 years ago
      DPC

      Certainly the next 4 episodes, and then after another 2, the other 2 episodes… 😀

      Series 3 has the worst episodes of the show’s run, but it also has the best…

      Ben Steed was arguably the worst writer on the show, especially with the misogyny (did he misunderstand the show’s premise, or was he really channeling his personal opinions?)

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    May 22, 2014 8:40 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    There was a time when fifty quid for a giant ant was considered a bargain, but only on crap ‘ironic’ top-ten-list shows.

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    May 22, 2014 8:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    So who *was* responsible for the giant ant?

    *dramatic face-zoom while pointing at Ben Steed, Gerald Blake and Sheelagh Wells*

    “THEM!!!!!”

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      May 22, 2014 10:33 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Simon Harries

      How can Sheelagh be responsible for the giant ant? She did the make-up, not build the special effects.

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        May 23, 2014 12:24 amPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        Perhaps she was the one inside it making it waddle.

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          May 23, 2014 4:36 amPosted 3 years ago
          Dave Sanders

          Giant ant movement by Roselyn DeWinter.

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          May 23, 2014 12:55 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Harriet

          Sheelagh is the only person in history who claims to have been afraid of the giant spider. She also reveals who was inside it, in Blake’s 7: The Inside Story:

          “I’d seen the sketch from the vis-FX boys, and it looked like the stuff of nightmares. Mike Kelt, a tall, thin effects assistant, was to play the spider, with his legs as the insect’s front legs, his arms the back legs, and the creature’s body balanced over his torso. He could move quite swiftly in this position, I was told – information that added much to my discomfort.”

          She decides it’s time to come to terms with her arachnophobia, and names the creature Brian. He arrives in a lorry:

          “I watched with some trepidation to see its occupant… The tailboard was open, and sitting on the edge was Brian, waving to the crew with all six legs, like visiting royalty. It was impossible to dislike him, and many crew members went home that day with photographs of themselves holding legs with a seven-foot spider.”

          I suspect this episode was more fun to film than to watch.

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    May 22, 2014 8:47 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Chris Allen

    “The only thing better than a great Blake’s 7 episode is a terrible Blake’s 7 episode.”

    I must admit I get a great deal more out of this than I did in 1980. I just go with the flow and enjoy the strange excesses.

    “This doesn’t make sense. They’re talking about Tarrant like he’s a big deal or something”

    I noticed that when I recently re-watched this. He’s only been in it for a few episodes and it’s Tarrant this, Tarrant that and “Tarrant’s on his way”.

    Poor Avon must feel like Alan Rickman in Galaxy Quest: “It’s just not fair”.

    Talking of Avon, he really does act out of character in this episode. Yes, maybe this rock is very useful but yer losin’ yer bloomin’ ship mate. Y’know, the one you were so keen to wrest from Blake.

    (Thankfully, the REAL Avon is back in the next episode.)

    “He was a special sort of man”

    We shall not see his like again.

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      May 22, 2014 8:58 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      It isn’t stated, but one can only assume the rock showed Avon something more ingenious and narcissistically fascinating than himself. It would explain EVERYTHING.

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        May 24, 2014 4:18 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        Of course! What did he see? he never said…and nobody asked him, either. He would have just given them one of those looks.

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    May 22, 2014 9:38 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Robert Crowder

    Wasn’t Lesley Judd working for the Argonds of Arg by this time?
    0/10 is about right, am expecting a similar score for the ante-penultimate episode for pretty much the same reasons.
    Neil have you considered turning the blog round, and watching something you’ve not seen that Sue loves next?

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      May 22, 2014 9:46 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Anniew

      Not if it involves songs about Gravity.

    • May 22, 2014 9:48 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      Sure, if you can bear us watching over 1000 episodes of Norm Abram’s New Yankee Workshop.

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        May 23, 2014 6:41 amPosted 3 years ago
        Robert Crowder

        Not knowing what that was, have just found out, and think it would be “different”, whether good or bad I am not sure.

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    May 22, 2014 9:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    Brian the spider is definitely the Blake’s version of the pantomime horse! Hated Kairos the first time I saw it but quite enjoyed it when I watched it recently on YouTube. Mind you it was that or snooker! As for Jarvik, I defy even Ben Cumberbatch to make a decent fist of lines like ,’ Woman, you’re beautiful.’ Bit of fun in a , ‘it’s behind you! Oh no it isn’t. O yes it really really is! , sort of way. Maybe Neil and Sue are too post fluey to appreciate the inspired daftness that is Kairos. Or the chutzpah it took to present a sponge painted black as ‘ the most sophisticated life form I have ever had the privilege to meet.’ Although it did act nearly everyone else of the set with its understated yet intense integrity. I also laughed a lot at Avon’ s playing with his sponge while the Liberator burned.

    • May 22, 2014 9:48 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      Hey, I enjoyed it! Just don’t tell Sue.

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        May 22, 2014 10:44 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        It’ll be our secret!

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    May 22, 2014 9:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
    executrix

    They’re either too young or too old…Tarrant’s first command was during the previous Kairopan harvest. FIFTEEN YEARS EARLIER. Ender’s Game, Federation Edition?

    The Sopron is a wonderful idea, though, no matter how dreadful the rest of the episode.

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      May 23, 2014 12:18 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      Tarrant’s been zipping around near lightspeed, doing a Charlton Heston Planet of the Apes type thing. He’s really 720 years old.

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      May 23, 2014 5:40 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      The discrepency is with Steven Pacey – according to Terry Nation’s character notes, Tarrant is supposed to be in his 30s. Pacey himself brought this up when he was cast.

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    May 22, 2014 9:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Andrew

    Given Sue’s acute eye for building craft, has she noticed how irrationally the Liberator’s flight deck is laid out? The control stations don’t actually point toward the viewscreen – they are pointed toward the gun rack which, oddly, is the actual focal point of the deck. The viewscreen is off to the left, meaning you’d have to steer the ship in the same way as you would attempt to drive a car by looking out the passenger window.

    I understand that this would have been a necessity of production, allowing cameras and so on to access the set but since I noticed it a few years ago it continually irritates me.

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      May 23, 2014 12:20 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      A couple of possibilities:

      1) It’s conceptually alien.

      2) The Altas probably have intermittent cases of bossed-eyeness.

      Or more likely, being computer-linked, they don’t need a viewscreen, just as they don’t need a visual reference point for Zen.

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      May 23, 2014 10:52 amPosted 3 years ago
      Gareth M

      Everyone of their stations appears to have some sort of sensor display. So I think they use that when they’re flying the ship.

      Whenever they use the viewscreen it’s usually for an overview. Like when to look at a planet or an overview of battle.

      Interestingly the backup viewscreen is next to the weapons area, so that is in their eyeline.

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        May 23, 2014 11:50 amPosted 3 years ago
        Ian Banks

        Just checked: the TOS Enterprise bridge is also set a little skew-if to the front of the ship as well. Kirk and his crew relied quite heavily on a big screen as well as sensor displays. And Star Trek played quite heavily into the design of B7.

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          May 23, 2014 6:42 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Andrew

          There’s an interesting sleight-of-hand employed regarding the set design and its skew-ifness. That silly Hostess tea-trolly thing with the flashing lights next to the couch is, I suspect, an attempt to square the circle (or horseshoe), pointing as it does toward the front.

          Despite its blinkies it’s a darker colour than the ultra hi-tech vinyl seats and more like the background of the ship’s bulkhead. Whether it was an intentional element of the design or an afterthought when they realised that half of the crew on the couch could be facing a different direction from the other at the controls I do not know.

          What did the tea-trolley do anyway? Apart from serve as the worst place you could think of to site a button for the force wall?

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            May 27, 2014 4:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            It seems to be for Avon to dramatically run to during the multitude of attacks. “Activate the Force Wall!” Since they are all ‘looking out of the passenger window” lol! they get sneaked up o a lot…so we get to see Avon do his hilarious girly run.
            I idolize Avon, if that hasn’t come across…but not blind to the girly run. Added to the intense face its something pretty special.

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    May 22, 2014 10:16 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Sally M

    Ben Steed is going to inspire Sue to heights of eloquence, I think {g}

    Kairos is dreadful, but like other folk I have to admit for a sneaking fondness for it (probably because it is so bad – it’s hard to hate something that make me giggle this much every time I see it). And oh, oh Jarvik… is there anyone who didn’t cheer when he died?

    • May 22, 2014 10:17 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      Our 2000th comment, ladies and gentlemen!

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        May 23, 2014 12:21 amPosted 3 years ago
        Frankymole

        I hope they win a hat. Rather than the Snog of Death from Avon or something!

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          May 23, 2014 1:41 amPosted 3 years ago
          Dan

          Or Jarvik.

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        May 23, 2014 11:18 amPosted 3 years ago
        Dave Sanders

        Ben Steed will be provoking a lot more than that before he’s done.

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      May 23, 2014 9:14 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      “is there anyone who didn’t cheer when he died?”

      Me last time I watched it! But only because I’d fallen asleep about 5 minutes before – I didn’t bother rewatching.

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    May 22, 2014 11:14 pmPosted 3 years ago
    James

    I rather enjoyed it. Yes it’s utterly vile, but it isn’t boring. (See Dawn of the Gods).

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      May 23, 2014 12:22 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      To cleanse myself I’m going to watch Meglos…

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    May 23, 2014 12:00 amPosted 3 years ago
    DPC

    Wow!

    I thought that, if nothing else, the nice naturalist bit of “When was the last time you felt the sun on your naked back” might have helped… ditto for the cruelty of disposing of people out of greed. And the “human vs machine” plot, where the use of technical trickery as a bluff revealed more than it was telling.

    The sexism in this story is rampant and ugly, and any time when “man” could be interpreted as “human”, it doesn’t work.

    I liked the sopron subplot…

    “Sue: She never used to be this hammy. I can’t take her seriously any more. She’s a pantomime villain. I remember when Blake’s 7 used to be gritty and interesting.”

    Don’t worry, there are at least two more episodes in series 3 where she is not campy, and treated very well by the writers… and they will make up for the 0 given in “Kairos”.

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    May 23, 2014 12:10 amPosted 3 years ago
    Dan

    Tarrant talks and acts a bit Douglas Reynholm (Matt Berry’s character in The IT Crowd). Jarvik almost exactly like him. The fight scene was like two Douglas Reynholms facing off against each other.

    The worst episode of B7 so far, by far. Just appalling. So bad it’s good, and yet bad.

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    May 23, 2014 12:36 amPosted 3 years ago
    Marcus Sheppard

    Yay, Eisenstein!

    What do we actually know about Ben Steed? For one so infamous, he’s a bit of a void when it comes to actual info. So I have nothing to refute the tiny cock allegation and it is now canon.

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      May 23, 2014 11:39 amPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      Ben Steed’s writing credits prior to B7 include Corrie and Crown Court. A quick trek through the IMDB brings up the episode A Place To Stay, and is summarised thus:

      “Arthur Barnard is warden of a hostel for homeless women. John Wragg and Richard Livesey wrote a letter and issued leaflets alleging that Barnard sexually harassed Mr. Wragg’s wife who was staying at the hostel and that he generally managed the hostel in an unpleasant way with the aim of forcing residents to leave. They also claimed that magistrate Lady Corrie Stott failed to properly oversee Barnard’s performance and acted in a biased manner. Barnard and Lady Stott are now suing Wragg and Livesey for libel, arguing that all the allegations are false.”

      Hmmmmmmm, yeah. You may colour me unsurprised.

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        May 23, 2014 4:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Angela R.

        I once saw a fanzine on ebay that purported to contain an interview with Ben Steed! I so wanted that zine, but it was a mixed Doctor Who/B7 zine and was snaffled by some high-bidding Dr Who fan. I do wonder whether it was some sort of spoof though…

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        May 23, 2014 7:09 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Marcus Sheppard

        Thanks, Dave. At least the protagonists there are investigating Barnard’s behaviour, presenting a challenge/counterpoint/indictment to it in a way that KAIROS famously doesn’t. I bet he gets off in the end tho.

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        May 23, 2014 8:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
        wyngatecarpenter

        I’m going to hazard a guess – it turns out that Mr Barnard did sexually assault Mrs Wragg, but it was fine because Mrs Wragg enjoyed it, and he was far more manly than her weak husband. In fact he regularly sexually assaulted female residents, and they all enjoyed it. And they had all been overdependent on technology as well, m’lud.
        Apologies to Ben Steed if that didn’t happen – but it probably did

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          May 24, 2014 1:23 amPosted 3 years ago
          Dave Sanders

          I think if I’d been off school, half-dozing on the sofa with a sickie and it had come on after Rainbow, I’d have remembered THAT.

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        May 24, 2014 8:55 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Tim Pieraccini

        That Crown Court story is actually available as an extra on the ‘Strangers’ box set.

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    May 23, 2014 3:08 amPosted 3 years ago
    Lauren

    I don’t remember how I felt about the rest of the episode, but I couldn’t stand Jarvik’s treatment of Servalan or the far-too-obvious substitution of Blake’s name with Tarrant’s.

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      May 23, 2014 9:07 amPosted 3 years ago
      Anniew

      How about Servelan ‘a treatment of Jarvik? Jarvik is EXACTLY the sort of man a totalitarian society produces as it’s finding its feet. Putin anyone? Now the Federation is established women are getting power and the political games begin. Jarvik was a good soldier and protects his men that’s why he’s popular. I can’t imagine soldiers in Afghanistan have much awareness of political correctness any more than Jarvik does. Also, despite a tendency to throw women over sofas he DOES have morals unlike the Supreme Commander. And no I don’t fancy Jarvik, I just think there was a germ of an interesting view of old school versus new Federation which didn’t come off . And yes, I do realise that I am waxing serious about a TV show with a pantomime spider and a sentient rock!

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        May 24, 2014 5:13 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        yeah this confuses me ..Are they spiders or ants or is it both and then why dont the spiders eat the ants…ants dont make gossamer..I confess I was not able to watch this bit and had my hands over my eyes…I didnt want to think it had gone this camp.
        I peeped to see Dayna throw it a puppy treat and just ….died.

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          May 25, 2014 1:36 amPosted 3 years ago
          Frankymole

          You’re probably thinking of Earth ants (and spiders). The Kairos creatures are alien.

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            May 25, 2014 1:25 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Fiona

            well, that’s a useful get-out I suppose. For everything. These dolphins can’t swim, but, hey, they’re alien…we have to have something to relate to, some continuity. Ants that spin…its just baffling for nothing! Wow it was so bad…why waste money like that…

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            May 26, 2014 3:39 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Ahem…. ‘as it ‘appens, there ARE certain species of (Earth) ants that can spin a form of silk. Certain species that make nests of leaves bind them a mixture of silk and saliva.

            Also, Ant pupae cocoons (so called “ants eggs” that you fede fish) are made from a form of silk, again extcreted by the worker ants.

            So maybe the Kairosian (see what I did there?) ant creatures aren’t so far fetched after all (except to look at).

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            May 26, 2014 3:40 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Or even FEED fish. (Sorry, bit of Avon RP poshness there)…

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    May 23, 2014 10:29 amPosted 3 years ago
    Nico

    Zero? Zero? WHY NOT GO NEGATIVE? Other that that, excellent review, Sue!

    I loathe Ben Steed (AKA B Stard) episodes with a burning passion, and him with the fire of a thousand suns. (I suspect he was impotent.) I can’t believe that after seeing the sheer shit this ep was, Boucher got him to write two more, and they’re even more offensive.

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      May 23, 2014 3:17 pmPosted 3 years ago
      San

      That’s what gets me too. That this got made in the first place and then they made EVEN MORE–and I agree, the other two are even worse. I just can’t help feeling someone was expressly putting the boot up women’s arses–not just BS, but those who gave him the platform. If this had been a one-off, perhaps I too could laugh at “Tarzan” ululating about his big balls and punching the women, figuratively and literally (first fifteen minutes, I hoped it was a put-on and kept waiting for the reversal).

      As it is, I can’t find any humour in the situation. I think about the older women in my family who had to endure Jarviks in their lives and careers–heck, just walking down the street–and I feel sick to think that this is what “entertainment” had in store for them too, humiliation at the hands of talentless petty maniacs who shouldn’t have been allowed to sharpen pencils in a writers’ workshop.

      Also, I’ve been catching up with vintage TV on YouTube and DVD and have seen a load of “war of the sexes” crap by now–but the BS episodes are by far the most egregious I’ve seen so far. I mean, speaking of sexism and misogyny in the media, it’s like counting daisies on a meadow in May–there was that “Thriller” episode where a woman becomes a crazed psychopath because she’s an unshagged spinster (at thirty), there’s tons of stuff that’s sexist by design, a la James Bond, UFO, Doctor Who, The Persuaders, Sweeney, any cop show ever, and of course all the chillers-thrillers-horrors that begin and end with female corpses ravaged and savaged–but nowhere in that B7-contemporary stuff have I come across such blatant, concentrated, sloganeering, explicit DOCTRINAIRE misogyny as in BS’s B7 episodes. One has to look at the 1950s sci-fi productions to come across anything similar.

      It’s just bizarre.

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        May 24, 2014 9:37 amPosted 3 years ago
        Nico

        And yet the women on the Liberator and Scorpio are the kick-arse members of the crew, so in many ways B7 was pretty good in its depiction of females. That just makes the absolute shit that BS’s (appropriate initials!) eps are even more difficult to explain. I heard they were one of the reasons Jan Chappell bailed, and I don’t blame her.

        There’s a lot of sexism in ST:TOS but nothing approaching this vileness.

        Have you read Liberation by Alan Stevens and Fiona Moore? It’s quite useful for facts like cast lists but not their opinions which include Gan being a woman-hating psychopath – and BS being wittily subversive about sexism. What universe do those people live in? is one of my more polite responses.

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          May 24, 2014 5:10 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          Is this the same thing that said Gan was actually a rapist? Somebody somewhere mentioned this, but more as a backstory fact than speculation so I am confused. Whoever it was said Gan was lying about why he was convicted and his attacks on Jenna and Cally proved it.
          Wittily subversive? As in, you’re just not meant to take any of that stuff seriously? No way.

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            May 25, 2014 12:16 amPosted 3 years ago
            Nico

            Yep, that’s the one, though I believe there were a few fans who thought that before the book came out.

            I know, right? I suspect they wanted to go with unpopular opinions to make themselves stand out.

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            May 25, 2014 1:37 amPosted 3 years ago
            Frankymole

            I still haven’t seen any evidence that Gan being a serial rapist is any more than fan speculation.

          • May 27, 2014 2:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Alex Wilcock

            Liberation certainly doesn’t look on their Gan theory as for laughs. I’m never sure about it (and I think in parts they overstate it), but it’s pretty persuasive, if you can find a copy. Particularly on Time Squad and Pressure Point, I think.

            If you do manage to find a copy, I think their best piece of analysis is on the fractured backstory of Dayna’s father, which is quite brilliant and persuaded me completely. I meant to post this under Aftermath and didn’t think of it in time, so no-one’s likely to notice now, but if you do, take a look 😉

            The book’s by Alan Stevens and Fiona Moore of Kaldor City, not a Blake’s 7 spin-off, goodness me no, if the estate of Terry Nationalwestminsterbank is reading.

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            May 28, 2014 8:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Frankymole

            I think the puzzlement is more about one person implying the Gan = rapist backstory was actually an official one worked up by the contemporary production team / writer (though not shown on screen) whereas it seems just as likely to be a fan speculation after the fact.

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          May 25, 2014 12:59 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          So is this book an official thing, or not? I cant seem to find out…

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            May 25, 2014 10:44 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Smile

            It was published by Telos Publishing in 2003, and is billed as ‘The Unofficial And Unauthorised Guide To Blake’s 7’, although David Maloney did write the foreword.

            I think it’s out of print currently, so might only be available as an ebook or a second hand copy now.

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        June 2, 2014 4:46 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        This, a hundred thousand times, San. It appalled me as a girl how the only ones of the Ripper murders that were taken seriously were the ‘innocent women’ that was the word they used. So not until ‘innocent women’ were being ripped to bits did it matter. You had to match a certain kind of behaviour or even your violent death didnt matter.
        When people get nostalgic for the 70s and I do myself in many ways, I have to think if what it was to be a woman then. All those pinched arses..and you weren’t supposed to mind…
        and its not like its over…tis a lot better tho in the UK, I think, tho I dont live there now so only an impression. Plenty of HK Chinese families devote their resources to the boy….

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    May 23, 2014 10:32 amPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    And I’m not trying to insult British soldiers. I just mean that when you are fighting for your life in unbelievably hostile conditions a macho culture with attendant values is the norm. That’s according to my friend who served two terms out there and is now a teacher.

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      May 25, 2014 1:39 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      And let’s not forget there are British servicewomen serving in Afghanistan too.

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    May 23, 2014 10:48 amPosted 3 years ago
    Gareth M

    I quite like this episode.

    Because there is a good story in there. Somewhere.

    The idea behind the Sopron is a great one, but it’s a pity it was shoved into the B-plot. It would actually probably make a good Doctor Who plot. Maybe one day the Doctor was meant to go to the planet of the Sopron people.

    I wonder, could this episode have been saved if it had been played genuinely as a comedy? Rather than as an embarrassment.

    The Kairos creatures kinda make me think of the giant fly from The Green Death.

    The piratical elements of this story also almost work.
    Everything with Servalan doesn’t and it just seems weird that it’s there.

    There’s just not enough story in the A or B plots and the Servalan stuff is weirdly added. Also the bug eyed monsters are cheap and don’t add anything to the plot.

    Yet, I still find its crapness, its awful dialogue and the very bad lunar lander against the Liberator enjoyable to watch.

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      May 24, 2014 5:06 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      But why be pirates? What has happened to Liberator’s treasure? Did Blake spend it all?
      No, right, because of that guy who was robbing it in Powerplay. He had a bagful of costume jewellery and Avon said it was still full of stuff, the strongroom.
      So they must be bored and need something to keep Avon and Tarrant from each other’s throats.
      I wish Avon would hit Tarrant. I like the way Avon is so tiny and delicate but is well handy. One blast: four dead guards. One punch t the stomach: one unconscious technician.
      Is battlestar galactica any good, I wonder…

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    May 23, 2014 12:22 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Rob

    I couldn’t possibly argue with any of Sue’s comments. This episode is so wrong on so many obvious levels but like Dr Who, given how quickly these shows were produced and filmed, unworkable scripts often got through the safety net.
    ‘Harvest’ is worse than ‘Warriors of The Deep’, ‘The Kings Demons’, ‘Planet of Fire’, ‘Terminus’ and just about every other Dr Who effort that followed this.

    The next one is much, much better though…honest 🙂

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    May 23, 2014 12:33 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Katie C

    Hmmm, apparently Avon’s line “I understand that this ship is the most powerful in the galaxy”..etc was dubbed with the word “astute” replacing what was originally said. What happened there then?

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      May 23, 2014 5:41 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      Somebody said ‘bless you’?

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      May 24, 2014 4:25 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      That’s true, you can see it! What could it be? Impossible to figure, God what a puzzle to keep me awake all night.

      How on earth did you notice that?
      And why doesnt Zen pull out that defence thing whenever people come on the ship?The thing from Spacefall, the shiny curtain thing. People seem to take it over with impunity. Surely all they have to do is instruct Zen to do that. It seems such a pointless device.

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        May 25, 2014 4:54 amPosted 3 years ago
        Katie C

        Hey Avon was talking, of course I noticed:)

        The costumes in this episode are horrendous as well, Dayna and Servalan look fab, but is Tarrant wearing a onesie with an elasticised waist?

        At least in Dawn of the Gods we had the leather trousers.

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          May 25, 2014 1:08 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          I must be the only person in the universe who hates leather. Admit Avon wore it well though. I like his space cadet thing this time.Its very hard to make Avon look bad…tho the lobster suit comes close. Dayna looks wonderful.
          Now is it just me, or is it, that somehow, I don’t really see Dayna as black? I cant put my finger on why this is, but the crew seem to be like that with her too…like in some things, the black actor gets treated kind of gingerly, like a fear of offence. And its not like this with Dayna. Is it her voice, I wonder? I read she has been cast in stuff through colour-blind casting and I can get that.
          Speaking of voices, damn, Avon is posh. He even says a ‘you’ for ‘oo’. “Ill-you-zhun’. It’s only an ill-you-zhun’. Blake did it too. So-lyou-shun’. Even Prince William doesnt do that now.

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            May 26, 2014 3:51 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            As regards to poshness of the voices, look at any TV series from the 70s to early 80s and it’s noticeable how ‘posh’ the actors sound.(Remember how Sue kept saying in ‘Wife In Space’; how Jon pertwee’s doctor was a “posh Tory”? Tom Baker sounded just as RP posh…)

            But within the confines of the B7 universe, maybe that’s the way all Alpha Grades talk?

            As for Dayna’s “blackness”, it was still quite unusual to have major black characters in ongoing series back then. What’s the betting that the re-boot of B7 will have a deliberately multicultural and patoid-speaking crew, because the BBC have to go through a checklist of ‘diversity’ with all series made nowadays.

            BTW, no racism here – I have black friends and they notice this sort of thing too!

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            May 26, 2014 6:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Frankymole

            Avon’s lobster suit originally had big red leather spikes around the collar (thanks, June Hudson) but Darrow insisted they be removed. He may even have torn them off himself!

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            May 26, 2014 10:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
            wyngatecarpenter

            I read that it wasn’t Terry Nation’s idea that Dayna would be black, so presumably it was a casting decision (although Nation did think it was a good idea). Having recently rewatched Season 3 there are no references to Dayna’s ethnic origin in the scripts, and only the odd reference in Season 4. I guess it was a little bit ahead of it’s time considering that Dr Who didn’t have any regular black characters until the reboot.
            Poshness was pretty much standard at the time I think and is one thing that really dates B7. Interesting that Brian Croucher said that he was trying to do a posh voice (not very successfully) when playing Travis.

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    May 23, 2014 1:01 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Harriet

    Spot on, Sue!

    My only complaint is that the review doesn’t mention the guilty party. Forget Gerald Blake – the writer was BEN STEED. Name and shame…

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      May 26, 2014 3:59 amPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      Ben Steed: it even sounds like a writer for Honcho or Drummer.

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    May 23, 2014 3:02 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Paul

    Could Pennant Roberts have done a better job with this? Anyone for a gender flipped Jarvik?

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      May 24, 2014 1:25 amPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      There aren’t any guns in it, so he couldn’t have made the fights any more limp.

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      May 24, 2014 2:02 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dan

      Better perhaps, but the first lesbian kiss on British television was a few years away.

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      May 27, 2014 3:29 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Anniew

      Just been fantasising about a gender flipped Jarvik. Wouldn’t that be FUN! If you are woman enough to rule with Servalan you must meet Tarrant woman to man and wipe the floor with the Curley haired twat . Should take you no longer than 5 minutes. Then get back here and show me what makes you special.

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    May 23, 2014 6:41 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Nick

    So many brilliant lines from Sue and Neil… LOVE this one:

    Sue: What the **** is Servalan doing? Surely the guards should be standing in front of her, not the other way round. This is ridiculous. Who directed this rubbish?

    Me: Gerald Blake.

    Sue: That’s all we ****ing need! Another useless Blake! I mean, look at her! WHAT IS SHE DOING?

    and the final lines:

    Me: Wow.

    Sue: It was badly directed, offensive, stupid and badly directed. And what made it even worse was the sexist pig was shown to be right ALL THE TIME. I kept waiting for a woman to kill him. I thought there would be a progressive message at the end about the battle of the sexes. Something that might excuse it. But no. I bet the writer has a tiny cock.

    Me: Would you like me to subject you to it again?

    Sue: Only if you let me slice off your testicles first.

    Me: Woman, kiss me!

    Sue: **** off, Neil.

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    May 23, 2014 6:47 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Nick

    Avon: Sopron is a mirror. A distorting mirror. It reflects a slightly greater image of whatever it is that happens to be scanning it. Zen saw a capacity charged brain, because that is what Zen is. Orac saw a highly sophisticated computer, because that is what Orac is.

    I can accept that Sopron can warp perception from living beings, but computers? Unless this is some bollocks about sentient computers…

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      May 23, 2014 8:07 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      More about sapience, probably.

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      May 23, 2014 9:10 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      Agreed, doesn’t make any sense. Didn’t occur to me until my most recent rewatch.

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        May 24, 2014 1:28 amPosted 3 years ago
        Dave Sanders

        It’s also not much of a defence mechanism if the optimum way to bypass the perception threshold is to just not give a shit.

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    May 23, 2014 6:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Richard Lyth

    Zero is the only possible rating for this one. I don’t know how old Ben Steed was when he wrote this, but it feels like really bad fan-fiction written by a teenage boy. A new character shows up and instantly the whole universe revolves around him, so he can treat the President of the galaxy like a cheap whore and get away with it before taking over the Liberator without breaking a sweat. I bet in the first draft his name was Ken Steel as well.

    Sue might be right about them replacing Blake with Tarrant at the last minute. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me if Gareth Thomas read this script shortly before deciding to leave the show. That would explain a LOT…

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      May 25, 2014 1:12 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      And I bet the guy’s own name isn’t Ben Steed. After all, how likely is that?
      His name is Kevin. Or Darren or Wayne. Or better yet, Nigel. yeah, it’s Nigel. There were only 3 or 4 names for guys then, after Dave and Steve.

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    May 23, 2014 8:43 pmPosted 3 years ago
    executrix

    But, having decided to cast Steven Pacey, someone could have said, hang about, let’s change that line to “I watched all the vizcasts of the last Harvest when I was at the Federation Preparatory Academy!”

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    May 23, 2014 10:58 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Amethyst

    B7 is such a well-loved and well-analysed show that many fans are experts on nearly every aspect of its production, but I’ve yet to meet a single one who knows why Ben Steed was asked back after writing this pile of misogynist junk.

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    May 25, 2014 1:12 amPosted 3 years ago
    wyngatecarpenter

    My mate for his “stag night” years ago invited me and one or two others over and suggested I bring a few B7 episodes. I obliged – the groom should have the chance to go a bit crazy on his last night of freedom after all.
    To add a bit of excitement I came up with a form of B7 Russian roulette. I supplied two episodes from each Season , one good , one shit, and we selected which to watch at random. One of the episodes we watched was Kairos (have a guess whether it was the good or shit episode). I was a bit conerned that my mate said he didn’t think it was that bad. Bad enough, but it wasn’t even the first time he’d watched it.
    His brother-in-law, who was in the army, was just bemused. He’d never been to a stag night like it.

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      May 25, 2014 10:41 amPosted 3 years ago
      Anniew

      I suppose it beat being stripped naked and tied to a post somewhere in in Scotland. Or……….was that how the evening ended?

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        May 26, 2014 10:06 pmPosted 3 years ago
        wyngatecarpenter

        You’d think that might be preferable to watching Harvest Of Kairos but my mate appeared to find it acceptable viewing.

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    May 25, 2014 8:24 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Robin Brown

    On paper it doesn’t quite look so bad. Servalan meets her match; Tarrant gets to do some of the things he’s supposed to be good at; Avon, um, meets a sentient rock. Cally, Vila and Dayna stand around a bit…

    Ok, maybe it doesn’t look so good on paper but it doesn’t look as bad as this. Although, if ridiculous monsters and rampant chauvinism are your thing, you’re going to love Ben Steed’s next two.

    Oh, and epic trailer.

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    May 25, 2014 10:59 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    I’ve just realised that I love this blog more than kittens. And Sue, please tell Neil to take his glass of Soma off of Orac. He’s bound to knock it over before the end of the series and shortcut the little rat.

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      May 26, 2014 9:09 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      Yes, was Blakes Junction 7 all in vain?

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    May 26, 2014 1:40 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    “For the first time in the series Sue throws a cushion at the TV”.

    Avon does the equivalent when he tells Tarrant that Jarvik is just another Federation thug. I think what’s sexist about this episode is what’s sexist about the series. The only women with any oomph are villains. Good girls ( apparently) stand around looking thoughtful or follow the pointing finger of a MAN. Or make pointless attempts to stand up for themselves without invoking the sisterhood. Poor old Ben gets it in the neck unfairly because I genuinely think he’s poking fun at the macho stuff. The ‘ sexist pig’ isn’t right at the end ‘cos he’s a MAN but because he doesn’t slavishly believe what machines tell him. All the sex/fighting is consensual. Tarrant’s ‘ he was a special kind of man’ gets shot down by Avon who’s preferred his rock throughout to all the Macho posturing thus setting a lesson for us all! And the winner is ……… Sopron.

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      May 26, 2014 5:00 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      I can’t believe that was ironic. It wasn’t nearly heavy-handed enough.

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      May 26, 2014 11:09 pmPosted 3 years ago
      The Grouchybeast

      It isn’t that it’s anti-techology rather than sexist, it’s anti-technology AND sexist. Ben Steed’s core theme is that technology is bad precisely because it weakens men and allows women to dominate them unnaturally. That’s the concept that links all three of his scripts.

    • May 26, 2014 11:46 pmPosted 3 years ago
      encyclops

      For what it’s worth, it never occurred to me to think of the women on Blake’s 7 as being “oomphless” until I started reading this blog. I always thought of them as the cooler characters. Gan was a lump, Blake a wet blanket, Tarrant a tool, Vila a dolt. Maybe I inflated their roles in my mind, because I loved Cally’s telepathy and cold-blooded threats, Dayna’s expertise with weaponry and willingness to charge into battle, Jenna’s piloting skills, and of course one more character in particular we’ve yet to meet — they all seemed way better to me than so many of the female characters on other shows I’d watched. I’m not disagreeing that as written and shown they could and should have been a lot better, but there was enough in the performances and dialogue and backstory for my imagination to run with. Only Avon really outshone them in my mind, but of course he did that to everyone.

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        May 27, 2014 11:57 amPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        I liked the female characters but God they lacked humour. And common sense. How many times were they left guarding someone who then, mysteriously, escaped? If only they’d left their hair alone. Or is that Avon I’m thinking of?

        • May 28, 2014 6:50 amPosted 3 years ago
          encyclops

          I always thought the female character I can’t name was hilarious.

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            May 28, 2014 5:38 pmPosted 3 years ago
            San

            Hmm… hilarious? If she’s who I’m thinking of, “drop dead gorgeous wicked smart altogether awesome goddess of SUPER” comes to mind a week and half before “hilarious”. 🙂 And she was underwritten too! (Also had too short a spin… sigh… would have loved to see her and Avon in a space-age “The Avengers”-kind stuff.)

      • May 27, 2014 2:09 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Alex Wilcock

        My problem with the women characters in Blake’s 7 – except Servalan, who even as a boy I thought was amazing and a terrific role model – is that they all started out with characters and then lost them. That’s especially the case with three of them who essentially have the same character, at least to start with.

        Cally is a kick-ass gun-toting terrorist… But she’s already been taken over in her second episode, and from that muting on she’s almost instantly invisible or ‘Nurse Cally’.

        So they eventually bring in Dayna, who’s a kick-ass gun-toting new woman character. That’s completely different.

        Then as her character starts to fade… Well, spoilers, but many readers will know what happens next.

        It’s as if the male characters were given lines that kept them in character, but the production team just shrugged and assumed that even the ‘strong women’ would inevitably retreat into mousy oblivion and, rather than pay attention to them throughout, just keep bringing in new iterations of the same character and hope no-one would notice.

        • May 28, 2014 6:53 amPosted 3 years ago
          encyclops

          I absolutely agree that the female characters were poorly served by their scripts. It’s just that my imagination never forgot their premises even when the writers did.

          Contrast with, say, the women of Firefly, who I assume are probably much better written, but who are dull as dishwater to me. Then again, I don’t like most of the male characters on that show either, so it might be a larger problem.

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    May 26, 2014 5:47 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Marky Mark

    Looks like me and Gareth M were the only ones to actually enjoy this episode. Yes, that clip shown in the review of Jacqueline Pearce hammily acting with her arms outstretched is particularly ridiculous, but I liked the suspense of the story – how were the crew going to re-take the Liberator….

    And Andrew Burt’s chest was quite nice to look at (shame about the face, though…though I agree with Sue that he does look slightly like Timothy Dalton) 🙂

    And yes, the ant thing is just utterly shit.

    But, my line of the review was as follows :

    “Just like Hank on Breaking Bad, Avon is completely obsessed with his rock”

    Thank you, Neil – you should be a comedian, you know…

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      May 26, 2014 7:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Anniew

      Servelan on top bitch form. Avon hilariously obsessed. A pantomime ant-spider. Tarrant getting his arse kicked . Priceless lines. A sentient rock . Come on are you kidding? I have come to love it!!

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      May 27, 2014 8:29 amPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      Nick , I bow to your superior nature knowledge..ants that spin! Who knew…maybe Jarvik…

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        May 27, 2014 12:42 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Nick

        Fiona… of course the majority of ants, workers and soldiers are female, ruled over by a Queen.

        The ‘one-trick ponies’ are the male drones whose only task after being fed and looked after for ages by the workers is to swarm and mate with a young queen. Then they can’t cope with life outside the nest and die.

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          May 27, 2014 3:13 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          Ants are cool. I love those scary driver ants. And I saw about some ants that live on a tree’s sap and when caterpillars attack the tree, the tree somehow, miraculously, tells the ants and they swarm out and hunt down every caterpillar. When the tree feels they are gone, it tells the ants and gives them a special sweet meal of the sap as reward.

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    May 26, 2014 5:51 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Marky Mark

    Can I ask about the sound trailers – are they all Glen’s own work ? This week’s was another cracker !

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    May 27, 2014 8:26 amPosted 3 years ago
    Fiona

    But this is the thing…I somehow dont see Dayna as black..not like I see Halle Berry for example, as black. I cant say why, because I can’t analyse it at all. And yes, it was rare back then, too.

    She is utterly utterly gorgeous, Dayna. She could probably wear the lobster suit and make it look good. Hilarious story about the spikes!

    I just read a quote from Paul Darrow about this episode: he said that after seeing that Ben Steed had got away with this, he thought he could ask for a chance to direct himself.

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      May 27, 2014 12:21 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      I get the distinct impression that ‘wants to direct’ is B7’s equivalent of the political ‘tired and emotional’ euphormism. 🙂

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    May 27, 2014 12:47 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Nick

    Is it just me….

    … or are/were other people heartily sick and tired of Servalan popping up all the time? Travis was an interesting character until he was horribly over-used, then he became a pantomime villain. Same as Servalan.

    No spoilers, but there was a chance to change this state of affairs but they couldn’t even do that and have the imagination to introduce a new nemesis for the crew.

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      May 27, 2014 4:06 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      To be fair – and again, no spoilers – it was a sea-change that was sprung on the production team at the last moment, and in the resulting context actually lets the adversarial conflict make a lot more sense.

    • May 28, 2014 6:56 amPosted 3 years ago
      encyclops

      Of course it’s not just you. Sue obviously agrees with you and so do most of the people who comment. I think you’re all insane. I’d watch Jacqueline Pearce play Scrabble against herself even if I couldn’t see the board. Too much Servalan is never enough.

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        May 28, 2014 11:11 amPosted 3 years ago
        Nick

        Well, she’s got nice t**ts I suppose…

        Ooops! Sorry! Slipped into Ben Steed mode there for a moment!

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        May 29, 2014 6:18 amPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        No, I don’t care for her now. She hasn’t any subtlety. It is very pantomimish, as people have said.
        Actually, for all the sexism stuff and all here, this could have been a good moment to develop something real about Servalan. When the guy was going on about what power costs you: if he only hadnt done it with all that absurd “Woman” stuff….it could have been a moment to bring out some backstory and humanize her.

  • May 27, 2014 2:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Alex Wilcock

    I’ve just had a look online, and further to the discussion above about the Blake’s 7 guide Liberation, it seems it’s back in print:
    http://www.kaldorcity.com/features/liberation.html
    As I said above, I think their best piece is on Aftermath and the intricate past of Hal Mellanby.

    And the theory about Gan’s past as a sex killer is here:
    http://www.kaldorcity.com/features/articles/B7gan.html

    • May 27, 2014 2:38 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Alex Wilcock

      Blimus! I’ve just read the Gan article, and it’s got a massive spoiler for the reboot Battlestar Galactica down five lines from the end. So be careful there.

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        May 29, 2014 5:50 amPosted 3 years ago
        Fiona

        I just read it too. It’s very speculative stuff but it’s good! It makes Gan much more sinister.

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      May 27, 2014 3:10 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      Thanks, brilliant, I couldnt find it at all. I know this wouldnt seem to make much sense but seems like I cant get all kinds of websites here without being given links anyway. Cant find Drake’s Venture, can’t find this Liberation til now…

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        May 27, 2014 6:56 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Anniew

        ioffer.com sells a DVD of Drakes Venture . Just type Drakes venture DVD into Google. It’s a homemade one but played alright on my DVD player.

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          May 29, 2014 5:47 amPosted 3 years ago
          Fiona

          Oh great, will get my mum to get it for me. Thanks a lot.

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    May 28, 2014 2:13 amPosted 3 years ago
    JarrickA

    I just want to say love this blog keep up the good work! I have to agree on this one 0 out of 10. It is sad that Ben Steed’s lump of flaming garbage was made into a season 3 episode. Wouldn’t it have been great if the Robert Holmes episode scheduled for Season 3 called Sweetly Dreaming… Slowly Dying would have been made and it would have caused The Harvest of Kairos never to have been filmed? Somehow I think we would have had better things to say about a Robert Holmes episode than this steaming pile from Ben Steed. I can see some of the fun camp aspects to it and I have watched it more than once but I cringe every time I do. I definitely don’t think this deserves a “protest rewatch” in response to the 0 of 10 grade that some on the Horizon website have organized. I think it is truly a matter of fandom taking things too seriously and to react so badly to this blog. I watch Blake’s 7 at times with tongue firmly in cheek because as the years have gone by I have to admit the production values have not aged well. Plus, I can love something and still make fun of the odd bad episode. That said, it is still one of my favorite shows and I still enjoy watching it. Overall the Harvest of Kairos is a badly written episode. I don’t think I could give it a pity rating of 2 out of 10. Even if you took the over the top sexism out of it, it would still suck. Overall, you have to ask yourself if you had to introduce someone to watching Blake’s 7 would you cue up The Harvest of Kairos and say to them “this is one of the greatest pieces of classic sci-fi ever made”?

    • May 28, 2014 12:00 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      I just heard about the protest against Sue on the Horizon site. I’ve seen it all now.

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        May 28, 2014 12:09 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Nick

        I had a look at a few of the posts on there Neil, but I couldn’t be arsed to go through them all… which particular protest against Sue and what did they say?

        And when all’s said and done, much as some die-hard fans might love everything about Blake’s 7, it is an old, under-funded sci-fi sereis that ended 33 years ago!

        • May 28, 2014 12:12 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Neil Perryman (Author)

          Oh I stopped reading them ages ago. Anyway, it’s on the front page of the site. Apparently Sue is wrong about everything and when she’s right it’s a complete accident. It’s very funny.

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            May 28, 2014 12:35 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            No, I can’t let it go, I’ve GOT to say it… actually bothering to organise a PROTEST RE-WATCH of ‘Harvest of Kairos’ across the fan group, in synch in different time zones , just because you disagree with what one person said in a blog? Sad or what?

            I mean, come on… I’m a fan of a lot of shows, but I don’t go re-watching ‘Fear Her’ because someone gave it a bad review in some Dr Who blog… certainly wouldn’t organise a protest re-watch to prove a point about one person’s subjective opinion being ‘wrong’.

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            May 28, 2014 9:15 pmPosted 3 years ago
            Dave Sanders

            So their idea of a ‘protest’ is to sit on their collective arses for 50 minutes and not interact with any human beings at all? Welcome to the internets.

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            May 29, 2014 12:29 amPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            I mean… really? What does that actually PROVE? Apart from the fact that they’re all saddos, that is…

            They actually co-ordinated the viewing protest time across different time zones too. What a total waste of evolutionary energy!

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            May 29, 2014 11:01 amPosted 3 years ago
            Smile

            Having checked up on this, to be fair to Horizon, they are actually currently doing a set of these rewatches on the third series. It’s a regular thing with them, now and then there’ll be a rewatch scheduled for a particular time and day, and anyone on the forum who is interested can watch it simultaneously while chatting with each other about it as the episode unfolds.

            They didn’t rewatch the Kairos episode because of Sue’s opinion on it – it was next in the schedule already, as they rewatched Dawn of the Gods week or two ago, and Volcano before that and so on. The timing is just a coincidence and I think the added comments about it ‘proving Sue wrong’ are probably meant more jokily than anything, with some people latching on to the inadvertent topicality of that reference.

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        May 28, 2014 7:04 pmPosted 3 years ago
        San

        Jesus wept.

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          May 28, 2014 8:50 pmPosted 3 years ago
          Anniew

          Come on Nick – it’s kind of a compliment to Sue’s wit and ANY excuse to watch kairos! Opportunities for unbridled mirth should be seized.

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            May 29, 2014 12:31 amPosted 3 years ago
            Nick

            Annie – it wouldn’t be so bad if it WAS for the unbridled mirth factor,which you, I and everyone else on here would appreciate, but these specimens are deadly serious!

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    May 29, 2014 7:53 amPosted 3 years ago
    Anniew

    The sin of seriousness. Poor things

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    June 5, 2014 8:28 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Frankymole

    Jarvik’s “hypermasculinity” seems to be mainly down to viewer misinterpretation: he doesn’t keep banging on about being a MAN in contrast to being a woman (as most assume), but in contrast to being a milksop in thrall to computers and their predictions. Human – master of his/her own destiny – versus machine. Even Servalan seems to need lessons in not relying on machines (including the machinery of state) in many stories, not just this one; you can see why mavericks like Avon and Tarrant might appeal.

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      June 7, 2014 10:30 amPosted 3 years ago
      Fiona

      What about “As a Man, Tarrant is worthy of honour”? Its undoubtedly implying that there’s a camaraderie of Men from which women are excluded. It’s like the Kia-Ora advert: my friend passionately denied there’s anything racist about it til I said could you make it today and it stopped him cold.

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        June 8, 2014 1:30 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Frankymole

        Tarrant’s a man who relies on initiative not machines.

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    June 7, 2014 5:23 amPosted 3 years ago
    Amy

    Sue: I’ve agreed with every single thing you’ve ever said (and I hope my constant commentary is half as funny). This episode in particular, you have spoken every thought I had. Thank you for being outraged with me. You are awesome.

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    June 8, 2014 3:44 amPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    Thanks, ants. Thants.

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    June 11, 2014 9:54 amPosted 3 years ago
    Supersynths

    And comments like “I kept waiting for a woman to kill him,” and “I bet the writer has a tiny cock,” aren’t demeaning or sexist either are they?
    Yes, the episode seriously grates, but responding to it like that is hardly going to move things on is it?

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    July 22, 2014 10:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Rob

    I decided to pick up a copy of Paul Darrow’s ‘You’re him, aren’t you?’ in-between blog updates here and this quote from Paul about ‘Harvest of Kairos’;

    ‘The author of this episode asked me what I intended doing one Blake’s 7 came to an end. I told him that, considering he’d got away with writing this episode, I thought I might try writing myself’

    🙂

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      July 23, 2014 1:11 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      And then he wrote the “Man of Iron” script and found out it was harder than he thought 😀

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