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Voice from the Past

I’ve kicked the habit, shed my skin…

Voice from the PastIt’s yoga night on the Liberator.

Sue: What the ****?

Blake has adopted the notoriously tricky ‘shitting crab’ position; Avon has put his back out.

Sue: Seriously, though, what the **** is going on?

Avon: These exercises of yours, Cally, do not appear to improve the temper.

Sue: Is Cally in charge of health and wellbeing on the ship? Have they finally given her a job title? Oh dear. And Avon needs to hold back on the mascara a bit. I know it’s 1979 but that is ridiculous.

Blake hears a strange noise.

Sue: I’m not surprised with his arse stuck up in the air like that.

Blake manually adjusts the Liberator‘s flight path, taking it away from a pleasure planet and towards an inhospitable asteroid.

Sue: They’ve traded paradise for a shit-hole. What a surprise. And why were they going to paradise in the first place? I thought they were supposed to be looking for Space One.

Me: Most people don’t know where Star One is; you can’t even say it properly.

The crew are perplexed by Blake’s mysterious behaviour.

Voice from the PastVila: You’ve always explained, given us reasons for things.

Avon: When he had any.

Sue: Mutiny! Mutiny now, for God’s sake! Here’s your chance to get rid of this dangerous egomaniac once and for all. Jump him!

Blake struts around the Liberator like he owns the place.

Sue: You have to lead by example, and Blake is a loose cannon who needs putting down. I can’t believe that they named a television show after this loser.

Jenna: Is he sick, do you think?

Sue: He was hearing strange noises less than five minutes ago, so WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Blake is having a nightmare.

Blake: Renounce. Renounce. RENOUNCE!

Sue: The Federation must have put something in Blake’s head when they were setting him up as a child molester, and they’ve only just got it to work or something. That’s my best guess.

Avon agrees.

Avon: It doesn’t make for the most dependable of leaders, does it? Random course changes to random asteroids.

Sue: Blake is damaged goods. Just drop him on the nearest planet. He’ll be OK.

Voice from the PastJenna lends her brainwaves in an effort to break Blake’s conditioning, but things go awry and all hell breaks loose. So much so, Avon has to karate chop Blake – twice!

Sue: Avon’s wanted to do that for ages.

Vila rushes in to restore normality, whatever the hell that is.

Vila: You’ve all gone mad! STOP IT!

This cracks Sue up.

Sue: Vila sounds like he’s their mother! That was hilarious.

Orac recommends eradication therapy.

Orac: Maximum five-minute treatment periods interspersed with one hour rest periods. Hence, minimum rehabilitation period of twenty-six hours.

Sue: If we have to go through that twenty-six times, I’ll be the one screaming.

Blake has been interfered with.

Sue: Is this why Blake has been such an insufferable dick all this time? Have the Federation made him act like an idiot on purpose? That would explain a lot.

Blake is strapped to a chair with, according to Sue, a Stanley Tape Measure stuck to his head. However, he still manages to convince Vila that Avon and Cally are the bad guys.

Voice from the PastSue: Vila is either really funny or really, really stupid. There’s no middle-ground with him.

Blake is acting very strangely.

Sue: Is he reading the script from a cue card?

Me: I think he’s supposed to look shifty in this scene.

Sue: I don’t think he can’t remember his lines.

Vila sends the Liberator back to Asteroid PK One-One-Eight.

Sue: Poor Zen. He doesn’t know if he’s coming or going.

Blake locks Avon, Jenna and Cally in the Liberator‘s yoga room.

Sue: Blake is basically Gan, but with better hair. Is there anybody on this ship whose brain works properly?

Blake changes into a space suit.

Sue: Ooh, that’s a big helmet.

Me: You say that to all the space terrorists.

Voice from the PastBlake teleports to the asteroid.

Sue: He’s landed in a children’s painting.

She sings Left Bank Two. Yes, she does.

Cally believes that Blake is being controlled by a telepathic transmitter.

Avon: If there is a telepathic transmitter, there must be someone down there to operate it.

Sue: If it isn’t Travis or Servalan, I’ll eat my hat. There was a time when just the thought of Travis and Servalan appearing in an episode was exciting, but not any more. It turns into a right shambles when they show up.

Blake enters the asteroid’s living accommodation. The lights and air supply have already been switched on. Back on the Liberator, Vila begins to panic.

Vila: That must mean there’s someone there. Mutants or… Blake? Blake? Blake!

Sue: Answer him, you twat!

Blake is menaced by a man with a beard. He leads Blake to a one-eyed man with a bandaged head.

Voice from the PastSue: WHO THE **** IS THIS?

It’s Shivan.

Sue: He’s a mummy in a curtain!

Shivan: Is he come?

Sue: Easy go!

You really have to hear the line to appreciate that, so let’s try again:

Sue: Easy go!

And then the camera zooms in on…

Sue: Peter Gabriel!

Gabriel is playing Ven Glynd, who framed Blake for child abuse, way back in the first episode. Way back. Get it? Oh, please yourselves.

Voice from the PastMe: Do you recognise him, Sue?

Sue: Yes, I think I vaguely remember him from the first episode.

Me: That’s probably because, even though they had to hire a different actor to play the part, they cast a man who looked exactly liked him.

Sue: Did they really?

Me: Did they bollocks.

Vila releases his comrades from the yoga room. Cally wants to know why Vila let Blake go.

Sue: To be fair, Avon and Cally have been known to flirt outrageously with each other, but Vila is such a dick for thinking the worst. They should drop Vila off on the nearest planet, too. He could keep Blake company.

Blake gives the crew a much-needed pep talk.

Blake: Look we’ve been on the run for a long time. But what have we achieved? Access to Federation ciphers that have been regularly re-coded; a raid on Central, an empty pretence; talk of Star One; talk of an alliance. Talk, talk, talk.

Sue: He’s right, you know. That basically Blake’s 7 in a nutshell. Talk, talk, talk.

Me: At least they’re addressing the fact that their so-called crusade has been hopeless.

Voice from the PastSue: That doesn’t really help the audience, though. Saying ‘we’re shit and we know it’ doesn’t make it any less shit.

Ven Glynd says he’s a reformed character, and he’s gathering evidence to bring Servalan down.

Ven Glynd: Surveillance report on Supreme Commander Servalan’s attempt to cheat the Federation of one hundred million credits in return for the supercomputer Orac.

Sue: If Orac was really worth one hundred million credits, you’d think they’d use him a bit more. They just leave him in a box most of the time. They definitely aren’t getting value for money. He can’t even do yoga.

Meanwhile, Servalan is talking politics with Le Grand, Governor of the Outer Gaul region.

Sue: Le Grand is basically an attractive version of Princess Anne.

The Liberator is hanging around in space.

Sue: That’s a beautiful model. Just look at the detail on that. Why doesn’t the ship look like that all the time?

Sensing a trap, Avon asks Orac to verify Shivan’s identity.

Orac: A voice scan is incompatible with that tracheal vent. But he conforms with records of size, weight and gender.

Avon: What about Ven Glynd?

Orac: Records confirmed his identity.

Me: But he doesn’t look anything like him!

Sue: Shock the monkey tonight!

Voice from the PastShivan possesses the telepathic transmitter that controls Blake.

Sue: Is he supposed to be French or German?

Sue lasts fifteen seconds before hysterical laughter takes over.

Sue: Wanna buy some pegs, Dave? Dave? Is that Dave?

I have to pause the DVD. She’s completely lost it.

Sue: Oh my God. I didn’t catch a word of that. You’ll have to play that scene again. God help us.

So we watch it again. And we still can’t understand it. Can you?

Sue: Dave!

She’s gone again.

Le Grand arrives on the Liberator via a shuttle craft. She tells Blake that the next leader of Earth must have a messiah complex.

Blake: Shivan.

Sue: Don’t make me laugh! The only thing he’s good for now is an advert for Injury Lawyers 4 U.

Le Grand wants Blake to lead them.

Sue: It’s obviously a trap, but it sounds plausible. If only Cally was telepathic, she’d know if they were telling the truth.

Voice from the PastBlake, Shivan and Ven Glynd hold hands.

Le Grand: The triumvirate, my friends!

Ven Glynd smiles.

Sue: Shock the Monkey. Hey! Hey!

Glynd and Le Grand plan to indict Space Command at a governors’ conference on the planet Atlay.

Sue: I know this is a trap, but I really want it to be true. It’s quite tense, this.

As the shuttle docks at Atlay’s conference center, Sue hums the Thunderbirds theme.

Sue: That model looks pretty good, but they aren’t half dragging this out.

Le Grand and Ven Glynd disembark at the conference center.

Sue: They’ve checked into a cheap conference hotel and now they’re wondering the same thing: where’s the swimming pool? And is there a jacuzzi?

Back on the Liberator, a man with a beard is knifed in the back.

Sue: That was incredibly realistic. Sometimes, this is the most realistic science fiction programme I’ve ever seen, and then you get rubbish like this!

Voice from the PastShe’s pointing at Shivan. And Shivan was Travis all the time.

Sue: I knew it! I bloody knew it was him!

Me: No, you didn’t.

Sue: I knew it was a trap – it was so obvious – but I’m disappointed. I wanted Blake to join the rebels. It would have given him something to do. Bloody Servalan.

Le Grand and Ven Glynd enter an empty auditorium.

Sue: Does this remind you of the university lectures you used to give on Monday mornings?

Me: Yes. And some of them were about Blake’s 7.

Sue: No wonder the turnout was so poor.

Servalan appears on a cinema screen. Ven Glynd really was a traitor to the Federation.

Sue: Shock the ****ing monkey! I did not see that coming.

Ven Glynd and Le Grand are ambushed by Federation guards. Le Grand is killed.

Sue: Execution by art installation.

Jenna and Blake escape to an anteroom with a wounded Ven Glynd.

Sue: (singing) Don’t give up. You’re not beaten yet. Don’t give up, I know you can make it good.

Jenna struggles to place a teleport bracelet on Blake.

Voice from the PastSue: Stick it on his ankle!

Travis teleports into the anteroom and Ven Glynd attacks him.

Me: I bet he wishes he had a sledgehammer.

Sue: Stop it, Neil.

Back on the Liberator, Avon smashes the telepathic control unit, which gets a big laugh from Sue, and Travis roars when Blake and Jenna escape from his evil clutches. Yes, he actually roared.

When Blake returns to the Liberator, he don’t remember, he can’t recall, he has no memory of anything at all.

Blake: What are we all standing around for? Our problem is to find Star One if you haven’t forgotten.

Sue: That’s right, Blake. Rub it in.

Cue credits.

The Score:

Sue: That was frustrating. The plot with the Federation traitors was excellent; it kept me guessing to the very end. I really liked the political bits; the scene in the cinema was very creepy. But all that nonsense with Travis was ridiculous. But it was so ridiculous, I actually enjoyed it. I don’t think I’ve laughed so much in ages. And the direction was a lot better this week, too. There’s probably a great episode struggling to get out of that mess. And if the next episode isn’t called Star One, I’ll have to kill you.

6/10

And if you think that’s mad, take a look at this video from the crazed minds of Clayton Hickman and Gareth Roberts:

Now, if somebody would edit some Blake’s 7 footage to the theme from BJ and the Bear, I could die happy.

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    April 11, 2014 12:37 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    “Where’s George? Get George down here now.”

    (Floor manager sighs) “What is it now, Gareth?”

    “Tell George I want a double.”

    “Jesus, Gareth, the BBC bar doesn’t open for another hour. Can’t you wait that long?”

    “No, I mean I want a double for that stupid Doctor Eyes bit with the spacesuit, I swear I’m going to leave if you make me do this.”

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      April 11, 2014 12:40 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      Meanwhile George Spenton-Foster is sitting up in the gallery with his head in his hands, shouting “PRONOUNCE! PRONOUNCE ‘CO-ORDINATES’ PROPERLY FOR CHRIST’S SAKE!”

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    April 11, 2014 12:52 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Mark Taylor

    Travis pretending to be Shivan makes Bane in The Dark Knight Rises sound like a received pronunciation handbook.

    Literally couldn’t understand a word.

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    April 11, 2014 12:58 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Amethyst

    … Six times better than “Trial”?

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      April 11, 2014 5:02 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      I wasn’t going to say anything!

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        April 11, 2014 5:04 pmPosted 3 years ago
        wyngatecarpenter

        Actually that’s not true, of course I was going to say something

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    April 11, 2014 1:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Chris Allen

    This is another episode that isn’t quite as bad as I’d remembered it. The whole business with Shivan is a bit rubbish (I had the accent pegged as Mexican) and it kind of all falls apart at the end.

    Travis finally gets onto the Liberator and then asks to be teleported back off instead of killing Jenna, Cally and Avon?

    I guess he really is batshit crazy at this point.

    For ages I couldn’t think who the “new” Ven Glynd reminded me of. Then I remembered. He looks like the hippy porno director in the third Dirty Harry film, “The Enforcer” (Clint Eastwood crashes through his skylight during a “take”).

    Villa doesn’t do well in this episode. While not exactly a three-dimensional character he is at least two-dimensional. Often writers like Roger Parkes and Allan Prior just treat him as one-dimensional, i.e. as if he really is as cowardly and stupid as he appears.

    As for the plot to bring down the Federation, would that have really worked? As trooper Par said in “Trial”, “Space Command runs the Federation”. I’m sure Space Command is more than willing to defend itself from internal threats as well as external ones.

    Can’t wait for the next episode!

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      April 11, 2014 5:35 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      Sort of agree about Vila, but on the other hand there was the “drop your guns” scene in Space Fall

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        April 11, 2014 8:39 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Chris Allen

        Good point. Definitely not Vila’s finest hour. And that scene was written by Terry Nation (or Chris Boucher).

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      April 11, 2014 5:38 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      Why didn’t Jenna, Cally and Avon teleport Travis into space – they could have used the sprecial effect from Cygnus Alpha yet again.

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    April 11, 2014 2:20 pmPosted 3 years ago
    San

    Monumentally crappy, but at least we laughed… and laughed… and roared… and laughed… great vid too!

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    April 11, 2014 3:49 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Paul

    Well, i’m sure this isn’t right, but the mystery dialogue sounds like

    “Enthrone your puppet plague
    To bolster and proclaim
    While you enjoy the real fruits of power”.

    .. poetry T S Eliot would be proud to have written πŸ™‚

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      April 11, 2014 9:23 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      “Enthrone your puppet, Blake,
      To bluster and proclaim
      While you enjoy the real fruits of power”

      Sounds clear as day to me! Perhaps I spend too much time with Frenchmen πŸ™‚

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    April 11, 2014 4:05 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Sooty

    I remember this one well, on seeing the location shoot to the local Odeon my brother announced. “Doh ! You can tell they filmed that on Earth “. More bob Holmes goodness next, that should perk Sue up

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    April 11, 2014 4:09 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Marky Mark

    Enjoyed this episode much more than the last one, despite Shivan’s weird accent. But I thought the scenes in the cinema (?) with Servalan appearing on the screen were particularly creepy. Some more classic lines for Avon, too….who is not sexy in the slightest, IMHO !

    And that Are You Being Served….video was just genius. I especially liked the way they had Servalan turning round as her name was put on the screen – just like in that crappy sitcom. Oops, where’s my pussy gone now…..:-)

    A great improvement – I just hope Star One lives up to its billing (when we eventually get there !)…

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      April 11, 2014 9:56 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      I believe the “Cinema” is Wembley Conference Centre. The first Star One convention was held there in 1980…

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    April 11, 2014 4:49 pmPosted 3 years ago
    rob

    Probably the worse episode of Blake’s 7 for me (or is that Harvest of Kairos?). Really struggling to work out why Sue rated this one more than Trial but loving her comments. This is the bestest blog in space πŸ™‚

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      April 12, 2014 8:24 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      Travis getting squashed behind a drinks vending machine is more fun than a philosophical flea, I guess. Especially as we get another one of Travises great “Nyyyyaaarrrrghh”s!

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    April 11, 2014 5:33 pmPosted 3 years ago
    wyngatecarpenter

    One of the first episodes I saw when I started buying the videos (because it was on the same vid as Gambit). The “space yoga” scene was one of those moments that made me wonder if rewatching it was really a good idea.

    I think Roger Parkes has over-egged the pudding a little bit with the various plot elements – the conference/ trap, Blake hypnosis, and Travis in disguise.

    It’s probably the worst episode of Season 2 – not terrible, just a bit rubbish.Nowhere near as good as some of the other episodes …such as Trial (just to give an example off the top of my head)

  • April 11, 2014 5:34 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Mat Dolphin

    I was looking forward to that one – just like an episode of Scooby Doo! Now please tell me that we’re getting an audio blog for Gambit! Or are you saving it for Orbit?

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    April 11, 2014 6:02 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Richard Lyth

    This episode feels like it was written in exquisite corpse style, with each writer doing about ten pages then handing it on to someone else. It’s all over the place really, but it gets better as it goes along and the insanity mounts up. I was praying for Shivan to turn out to be Travis, while thinking they wouldn’t actually do anything quite so ludicrous – and they did! And Travis has ample opportunity to kill Blake and take over the Liberator, but still manages to do neither. Useless.

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      April 12, 2014 3:33 amPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      It’s an episode that suffers from being less than the sum of its part in just the way you say – it’s full of good individual ideas that all feel like they come from different places and undermine each other when placed in close proximity. Anyone other than Travis would have made a more convincing stand-in for Shivan, a person we don’t know helped by another we don’t recognize that are our only continuity ties to past events that we should care about more than it lets us. Blake’s conditioning opens up some fascinating possibilities, but as soon as he gets to the asteroid it’s like it’s only there to write his personality out of the plot. And speaking of plots, Servalan effortlessly neutralises the one against her as utterly transparent and futile, just by being on screen and barely involved at all.

      What might have saved Voice From The Past would have been to play it totally straight and not opted for any kind of twists or secrets, but tell the story from a different angle. Since Avon does such a good job of pointing out the obviousness of the setup, it would made for a more interesting episode to dwell less on the conference itself and more on how Servalan knew about and orchestrated events, and how all the parties involved manipulate Blake in order to one-up each other.

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      April 12, 2014 8:46 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      “This episode feels like it was written in exquisite corpse style”

      I feel that this a place where I can safely admit that me and a mate once wrote a couple of Dr Who story synopses in this way. We knew how to have fun! Funnily enough regular villains in disguise featured in that as well, as I introduced a character called something like Dr Amster. My mate found this hilarious (sounded like hamster) but failed to spot the obvious despite being a huge Dr Who fan.
      The more I think about it the more I think you’re right about the writing of this episode.

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        April 13, 2014 12:58 amPosted 3 years ago
        Dave Sanders

        Was he related to Professor Stream?

        Ask Christopher H Bidmead abut that one. πŸ™‚

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    April 11, 2014 6:19 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Harriet

    Pleased that Sue liked the political bits. What I like about this episode is that it answers the question “Does Blake have an alternative to terrorism? Could he find allies to overthrow or reform the Federation?” And the answer appears to be “No, all potential allies are being set up for execution already. They really do need to blow up Star One.”

  • April 11, 2014 6:51 pmPosted 3 years ago
    encyclops

    Look, let’s just take it as read that all of these entries are fantastic and that they’re just getting better. I’m sure you’re sick of hearing how great you two are by now. But I will say I especially love that this isn’t just about Sue reacting and you writing it down, but that now you’ve become a proper double act (which leads us nicely into the next episode, possibly my favorite of the whole show).

    Roberts and Hickman are geniuses. And I replayed that roar probably five or six times at least.

    Oh, this episode? It’s garbage. But it’s flaming garbage, so at least it’s fun to watch if you’re in the right mood, which evidently Sue was. Good.

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    April 11, 2014 9:13 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Frankj=ymole

    “Enthrone your puppet Blake to posture and proclaim whilst you enjoy the real fruits of power”. That’s what I heard from the sound clip.

    Said by the “true eminence gris”!

    • April 11, 2014 10:21 pmPosted 3 years ago
      encyclops

      “Put your hand inside the puppet Blake
      Put your hand inside the puppet Blake
      Put your hand inside, put your hand inside
      Put your hand inside the puppet Blake”

      …or, preferably, don’t.

      “Note to myself:
      Do the dumb things I gotta do.
      Touch…the puppet…Blake.”

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    April 11, 2014 9:16 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Frankymole

    What’s all this “shock the monkey” reference?? I don’t get it πŸ™

    • April 11, 2014 9:59 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Neil Perryman (Author)

      If you aren’t familiar with Peter Gabriel then this post will make less sense than usual. Sorry.

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        April 12, 2014 8:20 amPosted 3 years ago
        Frankymole

        I got about three Gabriel references, but not that one πŸ™‚ I have no memory of a shocked monkey at all. My missus asked if it was like spank the monkey!

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        April 12, 2014 9:43 amPosted 3 years ago
        John Miller

        It’s from the “Peter Gabriel” album.

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          April 14, 2014 10:12 amPosted 3 years ago
          Marcus Sheppard

          Which one? πŸ˜€

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    April 11, 2014 9:57 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Geoff

    I like the bit in Clay and Gareth’s video where it says “and Orac” as if he’s actually a real actor even though he’s a perspex box! There’s something about inanimate things like that which I find really really funny. In the Hank Scorpio ep of The Simpsons there’s a science where a homeless person is replaced with a mailbox which I find funny for the same reason.

    Travis was indeed an “Intruder” on the Liberator in this episode, the girls were portrayed as a “Wallflower” once again and Blake was a knob
    “Bigtime” once again… I don’t think I should go on for fear of being banned from this thread.

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      April 11, 2014 11:41 pmPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      For using sledgehammer tactics.

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        April 12, 2014 12:53 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Nick Mays

        Dave, what are you doing? Dave! Stop it! Now! πŸ˜‰

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      April 12, 2014 8:22 amPosted 3 years ago
      Frankymole

      But Blake was being post-hypnotically controlled so for once he had an excuse for behaving like a knob. Even Avon could tell the difference!

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    April 11, 2014 10:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Katie C

    Whew, I’m just glad it’s all over! And didn’t Shadow get 6/10? Just saying…

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    April 12, 2014 12:00 amPosted 3 years ago
    Dave Sanders

    I just realised what the dumbest thing about Voice From The Past actually is. It’s that in establishing ‘Shivan’s’ identity, a person we’ve never heard of but the cast – including the TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON playing Ven Glyn, assuming anyone remembers him, just to rub it in – not one of them bothered to say ‘you don’t mind if we actually check under the bandages do you, it is pretty important’. Really, nobody was at all curious to see what had been done to him?

    Or if that wasn’t terribly diplomatic they could have taken his fingerprints, in which case they might have noticed the artificial hand; the same one that completely went past Orac’s identity check. You know, THE ONE WITH A FUCKING GUN IN IT.

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      April 12, 2014 11:05 amPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      Does it help that Shivan’s single visible ‘eye’ is sitting on top of Travis’ own eyepatch? No, no it doesn’t. Were they expecting Shivan to talk like Peter Falk or something?

      …oh, I give up, it’s just STOOPID.

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        April 12, 2014 12:24 pmPosted 3 years ago
        Frankymole

        Yes, is that mean to be a real eye (fake real eye, real fake eye) or what? Very painful for “Shivan” if it was supposed to be taken as real.

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          April 13, 2014 1:05 amPosted 3 years ago
          Dave Sanders

          Like I said; anyone other than Travis would have made a better Shivan, not because of Brian Croucher and what they make him do, but because of Travis’ own history and physical deficiencies. You’d think Chris Boucher would have caught that one.

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      April 12, 2014 1:28 pmPosted 3 years ago
      wyngatecarpenter

      And how long exactly has he been pretending to be Shivan? Has he ifiltrated the anti-Sevalan group recently or has he been taking a break between failed attempts at killing Blake to put on the bandages and dodgy accent.

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    April 12, 2014 6:53 amPosted 3 years ago
    Nico

    Yeah, that moon was the worse B7 “special” effect ever, and that’s saying something. And why did they even need that scene?

    Blake really is a right bastard in this at the end. I’d’ve dropped him off back at that moon.

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      April 12, 2014 5:45 pmPosted 3 years ago
      solar penguin

      The really annoying thing is that the writer probably intended that scene to be filmed in a quarry but for some reason, just this once, the production team decided to not to go to a quarry!!!

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    April 12, 2014 12:51 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Nick Mays

    Oh that vid! PMSL! Thank you so much for cheering my day up!

    As for Travis, his disguises were as convincing as the Master’s!

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    April 12, 2014 4:53 pmPosted 3 years ago
    The Grouchybeast

    VftP is one of those episodes where (no offense to Brian Croucher) I really wish Stephen Grief had stayed for the second series. Travis is *supposed* to have changed, but it’s hard to keep that in mind, sometimes. It would be such a different experience watching at the same actor playing a part differently, than seeing everything through the lens of a different actor playing the same part.

    I love All Federation politics episodes, so, yay for a 6/10! Although I’m not sure if Sue is getting into the B7 mindset, or if it’s just Stockholm Syndrome setting in.

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      April 13, 2014 1:30 amPosted 3 years ago
      Dave Sanders

      I don’t think Stephen Grief would have been any more comfortable with the bigger problem stuck with the new, exproved (opposite of improved) Travis.

      Remember how I described B7 as like Torchwood in space? That was on a deliberate character level, but Travis has become the walking embodiment of everything that show got wrong in that department. Here you have a bunch of different writers, given or pitching different ideas to write, all of whom have to follow the pivotal events in Trial. on the whole they manage this perfectly well, but this seems to be all they’re working from; none of them seem to be following what the others are doing, or how Travis’ relationship with the Federation plays out over time. As a result, many of his actions simply don’t make a lot of sense, to the point where it’s not clear whether his appearances take place in the right order, even though that order is pretty clearly established by the rest of the arc.

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        April 13, 2014 10:06 amPosted 3 years ago
        The Grouchybeast

        I see Trail as Servalan trying to get rid of the Travis she already broke by having his mind screwed around with by the Federations ‘retraining therapists’. So for me it isn’t about the change in Travis’s relationship with the Federation, it’s the change in Travis himself from having someone monkey-wrenching his brain between the series.

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        April 13, 2014 10:59 amPosted 3 years ago
        Ann worrall

        Except Torchwood took itself so seriously and the thing I love about Blakes7 is that it never preaches. It’s about a bunch of people we learn to care about who In the course of living and surviving have to confront some big ideas. And while Captain Jack and Avon (series4) are both operatic, there is something unassuming about Paul Darrow’s performance whereas John Barryman is so knowing and self consciously cool and tortured that he makes me sick. and compare Gwen with any of Blake’s warrior babes. I know which ones I’d prefer a girl’s night in with.!

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        April 14, 2014 12:10 amPosted 3 years ago
        wyngatecarpenter

        “none of them seem to be following what the others are doing, or how Travis’ relationship with the Federation plays out over time. ”

        That’s the most annoying thing about Season 2 for me. I think the idea of an increasingly mad and dangerous Travis also on the run from the Federation is a good one, but it’s written completely inconsistently. Whether he’s an ally or enemy of Servalan changes from episode to episode.

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    April 13, 2014 12:10 amPosted 3 years ago
    Ann worrall

    OMG. Some of the worst acting in the series. Le Grand. Shivan. Made the educated flea sound like aBafta winner. Still loved it though.

    Great comments. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on Gambit and how to dress a set with that box of sad Christmas stuff you’d forgotten about and stumbled on in the loft. One of my favourite episodes with cracking acting.

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    April 15, 2014 3:12 amPosted 3 years ago
    Lauren

    It was very difficult not to crack up watching that video. A hilarious end to a great post.

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    April 15, 2014 9:33 amPosted 3 years ago
    Katie C

    Well I’m all dressed up and ready to go to Freedom City Glen, not Space City!

    • April 16, 2014 11:24 amPosted 3 years ago
      Glen Allen

      Aargh I know. I realised as soon as Id sent the file but didnt have time to redo it.
      If you could all just shout “Freedom” when that bit comes up, it should drown me out πŸ™‚

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    April 15, 2014 2:00 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Ann worrall

    Have just spent half an hour avoiding cleaning the bathroom and listening to your brilliant trailers. Sod the alien particles. I think I’ll listen to them again

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    May 14, 2014 2:35 pmPosted 3 years ago
    Fiona

    If you haven’t already but i am sure you have, watch the fantastic videos by zukalis especially the Right Said Fred and Ernie and Hokey Cokey. She is a genius.

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    June 9, 2014 4:17 amPosted 3 years ago
    Supersynths

    “It’s yoga night on the Liberator.” – or maybe just a spot of ‘Callynetics’….? πŸ˜€

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